If there is a God, then where the hell is he?

where is the proof that God exists, frankly the human race is about survival of the fittest, and ever since we came into existence we have had to fend for ourselves, there was no outside help...

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Many people fail to pay attention to the fact that, according to the Bible, God has not been calling the shots. The one called Satan has.

Jesus reminded his disciples: "I shall not speak much with YOU anymore, for the ruler of the world is coming. And he has no hold on me" (John 14:30)

If this were not so Satan could not have offered the kingdoms of the world to Jesus in John 4:8-10.

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A black man wrote:

where is the proof that God exists, frankly the human race is about survival of the fittest, and ever since we came into existence we have had to fend for ourselves, there was no outside help...

This seems more of a plea to God to stop being a meanie, or else....
A black man won't believe in him anymore! Razz

There kinda was 'outside' help - unless you consider the rest of the world and living things to be purely against us. No need to bring god into it.

BTW: I like your name, it's going to make for some fun, and welcome to A2K.
Reminds of a certain Chappelle show skit.

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djjd62 wrote:

1st off, welcome to a2k
2nd, set is one of the least nonsensical poster i've had the pleasure to read
just my two cents
and as for god, i think i heard he got killed a few years back in a drive by shooting in san bernadino..............wait a minute maybe that was jesus

That's fine, I respect your opinion. However, I noticed he likes to post for the sake of being purely sarcastic - not for the sake of argument... and of course, blow things out of proportion beyond recognition.

A black man wrote:

where is the proof that God exists, frankly the human race is about survival of the fittest, and ever since we came into existence we have had to fend for ourselves, there was no outside help...

There is no proof that he exists whatsoever. Some people think the bible is the proof, but that's rediculous. Some people think that because a lot of people believe in god, that there is a high probability or certainty that god exists, or they have pressure to conform and eventually get brainwashed.
People believe because they badly want to believe... not because the concept of god/religion makes a lot of sense. People don't want to take "don't know" for an answer. So if there is an answer, it better be good and desirable (Wishful Thinking link). Also, there better be consequences for not conforming/believing, otherwise this whole religious idea may not hold for long.

With all of this in mind, still, this does not neccessarily mean that some sort of a supreme being does not exist, just because we can't perceive it. (nor am I hinting that there is a significant probability that it does exist)
After all, we have billions of bacteria inside and outside of our bodies. The bacteria doesn't know the context of us; that we're human beings and what exactly we're up to. Maybe we're the bacteria equivalent to something else, and we can't sufficiently percieve it.

So the short answers to your questions are:
1. God which appears to have been invented by humans: No proof at all. Doesn't make much sense. Too many contradictions and discrepancies, so one has to rely on the shaky concept called faith.
2. Some sort of a supreme being in the multiverse (independent from what people have invented): Don't know. Universe is a bizarre place which may be driven by the concept of infinity and randomness. Who knows what kinds of things it holds, and how many of those things we can't even imagine or perceive.

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c_logic wrote:

Setanta wrote:
It blows nothing out of proportion to take notice that you have attributed someone else's post to me. In your post, it reads "Setanta Wrote." Since i did not write that, you could not have produced that by using the quote function. Therefore, you willfully typed my name into the quote code.

Come on, this is nonsense. I can't believe even someone like you would dwell on this for no good reason.
If you look closely, you'll notice that my quote structure is different and that I like to separate them cleanly - I quote things piece by piece - I copy and paste the opening and closing tags for each quote, and in this case I forgot to change the nickname from the one I originally copied.
Please... don't bring this up anymore.

If you have originally copied that post, my name did not appear in it. So, you're lying again.

But i do see that your wonderful skill for making unsubstantiated assumptions matches or even exceeds your penchant for lying badly.

EDIT: You attributed a quote of Miss Eppie to me. She did not quote me, nor mention my screen name in her post. Therefore, you willfully typed my name in an attribution to a post i did not write. And by the way, don't try to tell me what i can or cannot bring up here. You're off to a bad start, and i can see you doing rapidly downhill from here. "Logic" has no right to appear in your screen name, although i doubt you'll change it.

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A black man wrote:

where is the proof that God exists, frankly the human race is about survival of the fittest, and ever since we came into existence we have had to fend for ourselves, there was no outside help...

Certainly there is no proof that any god exists. Certainly, it is a reasonable assumption that the human race is on its own, with no prospect of outside help. However, the concept of "survival of the fittest" refers to species, not to individuals. Any individual who survives is by definition fit. However, an individual which fails to reproduce does not pass on genetic information. If the aggregate of all the individuals of a species fail to reproduce, the species can be considered to have been unfit, and to have failed to survive. The human race survives--therefore, the human species is fit.

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Setanta wrote:

If you have originally copied that post, my name did not appear in it. So, you're lying again.

But i do see that your wonderful skill for making unsubstantiated assumptions matches or even exceeds your penchant for lying badly.

EDIT: You attributed a quote of Miss Eppie to me. She did not quote me, nor mention my screen name in her post. Therefore, you willfully typed my name in an attribution to a post i did not write.

Again, you don't know what you're talking about - unless you're saying all this nonsense on purpose.

Imagine this scenario:
I initially reply to you (by opening a new tab in my IE 7 browser).
The quote is originally one big block, but I arrange it so that I create a bunch of little quotes - referencing the stuff I wish to discuss specifically.
Now, I copy and paste the last quote (duplicate it) at the bottom of the textbox and go back to the regular page (which is normal mode, not edit mode). I copy a statement from another person. I paste it over the content of the last quote that's been duplicated, BUT I forget to change the name reference to another person. That's why it says "Setanta".

Most of all, I had absolutely no incentive to misrepresent the quotes, after all, what would I do it for and how would I hide the evidence?

So, which one is it:
You're not very bright?
You're a liar and blew this thing out of proportion for the sake of entertainment?

WOW! You're one strange fellow either way.

Setanta wrote:

And by the way, don't try to tell me what i can or cannot bring up here.

I sure can't. I was merely hoping you would not dwell on a childish claim that has no relevance to this topic.

I wouldn't be surprised if you kept mentioning this "pasting accident" further in this thread, but I don't care as I don't think you're very mentally ripe.

Setanta wrote:

You're off to a bad start, and i can see you doing rapidly downhill from here.

For some reason you keep attributing things to me that are relevant to you:
You're the one who was extremely bothered and uneasy by the fact that I might have been off topic.
You're the one who blew the "pasting accident" out of proportion - which has nothing to do with the thread topic.
You're the one who started to get extremely obnoxious and sarcastic.

If this is not a bad start, what is?

Setanta wrote:

"Logic" has no right to appear in your screen name, although i doubt you'll change it.

"_obnoxious_smartass" has every right to appear in your screen name, although i doubt you'll change it.

I hate posting stuff that's not related to the thread topic - especially since it may make me sink close to your level, but I certainly won't let you bitch-slap me.

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A hearty welcome to A2K, c_logic. Don't let the mighty wind sway you.

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Don't worry, God is fine. God was over my place for dinner the nigt before last. He has some business in another part of the universe but as soon as he's finished with that he'll be back. Rest assured.

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Nick, which personality was he displaying, the nice guy or the bad ass?

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Mesquite he turned a lot of water into wine that night so he was feeling pretty good. But I suspect when he comes back he's gonna be hungover and pretty foul tempered. Be afraid.

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If there is a God, then where is He
God's where He's always been...the question is, what does He see in You?
And what 'worth' are you to Him in your mockings and unbelief?

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God is where he has always been doing what he always does. Man needs to step up to the plate and fulfill his end of the bargain. The problem is man and not God.

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Re: If there is a God, then where is He

tooold4thisstuff wrote:

God's where He's always been...the question is, what does He see in You?
And what 'worth' are you to Him in your mockings and unbelief?

I get the distinct impression that God isnt meant to judge or criticise or compare!
He is merely meant to help.
Or is that Jesus?I get confused.

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c_logic wrote:

. . . but I certainly won't let you bitch-slap me.

No need for me to do that--you do it to yourself every time you put your fingers on the keyboard.

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c_logic wrote:

I initially reply to you (by opening a new tab in my IE 7 browser).
The quote is originally one big block, but I arrange it so that I create a bunch of little quotes - referencing the stuff I wish to discuss specifically.
Now, I copy and paste the last quote (duplicate it) at the bottom of the textbox and go back to the regular page (which is normal mode, not edit mode). I copy a statement from another person. I paste it over the content of the last quote that's been duplicated, BUT I forget to change the name reference to another person. That's why it says "Setanta".

Most of all, I had absolutely no incentive to misrepresent the quotes, after all, what would I do it for and how would I hide the evidence?

So, which one is it:
You're not very bright?

You're the one who is not very bright. When you use the quote funtion, my name appears. But as soon as you break up the quote, you are obliged to type in the quote code to continue to quote after you have used the quote code to close the first portion of the quote. Therefore, in any subsequent quote, you had to have typed in my name, even though you were not quoting me.

From which i conclude that you're not very bright.

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If there isn't a God then how do we exist?

By accident?

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Of course its all an accident, Rex. What - you haven't been paying attention? Timber and Setanta and Doc S and others have been trying to explain that for ages. What're you, dense or sumpthin? Laughing

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RexRed wrote:

If there isn't a God then how do we exist?

By accident?

Evolution.
Not, pazazz and there was Adam, then pazazz, there was Eve.

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snood wrote:

Of course its all an accident, Rex. What - you haven't been paying attention? Timber and Setanta and Doc S and others have been trying to explain that for ages. What're you, dense or sumpthin?

Yes I am dense, dense with grey matter. hehe

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