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Should a just goverment provide health care to its citizens?

 
 
Chaplin
 
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Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2006 02:44 pm
Universal health care makes sense, because the health of everybody is the responsibility of the federal government. That's the reason why the feds makes the laws on health and safety. When ecoli was found in spinich, it's the feds who has the primary responsibility to inspect, find the problem, and resolve it for the health of everybody. Almost the same thing IMHO.
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JamesMorrison
 
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Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2006 09:18 pm
Chaplin wrote:
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Universal health care makes sense, because the health of everybody is the responsibility of the federal government. That's the reason why the feds makes the laws on health and safety. When ecoli was found in spinich, it's the feds who has the primary responsibility to inspect, find the problem, and resolve it for the health of everybody. Almost the same thing IMHO.


That's not how I perceive the role of government. One's health is, at once, an individual choice and responsibility. Government's role is to protect its citizens and to facilitate commerce at a general overall level. Government should provide services that individuals and even larger groups of citizens cannot provide by themselves like the common defense, infrastructure, adjudication of legal disputes and law enforcement. Obviously, not even the government can protect individuals from organically grown spinach. It is, however, duty bound to mitigate such situations in a way that protects the larger population, this is the basis for governmental licensing and inspections.

In the larger role of health care provider the government can secure some type of price control and keep costs down and this can be a useful governmental function (Wal * Mart uses this very technique to negotiate low prices from its suppliers why can't the government?--Bush's Medicaid part D does not do this) but ultimately citizens pay for the health care they use?-they choose how much they wish to purchase thru taxes (given a governmental health care system)?-it is not magically provided by some nebulous entity ("the government") totally disconnected from economic reality. In this same vein we see the recent victory in Sweden of Fredrik Reinfeldt, of the center right camp, over Groan Persson of the Social Democrats. Mr. Reinfedlt's Moderate Party was handily rejected in 2002 while running on an extremely right platform by promising to slash taxes and disembowel the Swedish welfare system. This time Mr Reinfeldt moved to the center by promising to cut taxes for the low-paid and trim unemployment benefits, but to preserve the "Swedish Model". All Europe should see the writing on the wall. The Swedish model has produced good GDP growth but productivity has been disappointing because a major part of the economy is in the public sector. All this growth, as in Finland, has produced no net job growth over the last 50 years. The answer to perceived social problems is not embodied in the answer "The Government". You may get a free lunch but, be assured, somebody is paying for it.

JM
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seibentage
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2006 08:04 pm
i have recently decided to go against a governemtaly funded healt care system for the U.S.

Although it has worked successfully in other countries, we have to look at government run programs. FEMA, a representative for the UN, even the little government provided health care we provide to the underprivialged is in serious need of assistance. There are so many scandals with our government we dont need anther thing the governemtn has comeplete domination over so they can screw that up.
there are so many reasons why the US shouldnt. Although other countries have great people in the medical professionals in their contries people from all over the world come to the US because we have the best and most effiecent medical professional...why? because they have the incentive to work more because they get aid higher...yes our doctors are the most paid but they are paid that much money for a specific reason...because they are higly skilled in their profession.
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JamesMorrison
 
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Reply Sat 30 Sep, 2006 05:09 pm
seibentage wrote:
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i have recently decided to go against a governemtaly funded healt care system for the U.S.


Not surprisingly, I would prefer the term "governmentally administered" program.
The rest of seibentage's post alludes to the fact that it is not always wise to entrust the government with the people's money, due diligence is always required.

JM
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 30 Sep, 2006 05:24 pm
I agree with Edgarblythe and Chaplin. We spend trillions on space exploration, multiple wars of various questionable levels of sense, and armaments to wend obliteration many times over to the earth and its people, but we pussy foot less some person get something to help his or her health and welfare.
Darwinian brutalism rides.
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