religious people don't care about truth

Does your science provide comfort?

That's not true, though. I don't have a religion. Look up 'religion' in a dictionary.

In a sense, I think we are all scientists; we all test information against our own system of reasoning. And we all tend to resist any data that might challenge our deepest convictions. A good scientist, having faith in reason as a means of knowing reality, will try to surrender to the facts of the matter... Ironically, this appears to be especially difficult for religionists, who seem to be lacking in faith the most.

echi wrote:

In a sense, I think we are all scientists; we all test information against our own system of reasoning. And we all tend to resist any data that might challenge our deepest convictions. A good scientist, having faith in reason as a means of knowing reality, will try to surrender to the facts of the matter... Ironically, this appears to be especially difficult for religionists, who seem to be lacking in faith the most.

All of life is science. Therefore all who are alive are scientists. Religion is no different. Religion is supposed to be based on reason. Unfortunately some unreasonable people have hijacked religion.

All of life is science. Therefore all who are alive are scientists. Religion is no different. Religion is supposed to be based on reason. Unfortunately some unreasonable people have hijacked religion.

In what way? Could you elaborate?

The supposition that religious people are insecure is false. Sure, it may be so in some cases.

Many of us are certainly not insecure and to not view religion as a crutch or pacifier.

I happen to believe that I can embrace both science and religion and feel quite comfortable with both.

agrote wrote:

That's not true, though. I don't have a religion. Look up 'religion' in a dictionary.

The people who do not have a religion are those who are physically dead and in pine boxes.


Definitions (Merriam Webster)
Religion: (n) 1 a : the state of a religious *a nun in her 20th year of religion* b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : CONSCIENTIOUSNESS
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
-re£li£gion£less adjective

Science derives from the assumption that we are able to understand the world around us,

and that we are an integral part of it.

It removes the bias that we are superior or inferior to anything in nature,

and gives us the freedom to make choices based on our our conviction and values.

Science reveals an elegance and mystery to nature which profoundly supersedes anything offered by religious dogma,

and it leaves open the possibility of spiritual aspects beyond its own bounds.

Science is both freeing, and enlightening.

But it pulls no punches,

so if you're insecure, and need to believe something to bolster your ego as a *special* part of nature, then close your eyes and sit back down on the pew, because it's probably not for you

Now look up "archaic".

Mindonfire wrote:

All of life is science. Therefore all who are alive are scientists. Religion is no different. Religion is supposed to be based on reason. Unfortunately some unreasonable people have hijacked religion.

All life is time, everything preset everything in an oder everything without purpose. Its just time and science is contained in that time.

Mindonfire wrote:

agrote wrote:

That's not true, though. I don't have a religion. Look up 'religion' in a dictionary.

The people who do not have a religion are those who are physically dead and in pine boxes.


Definitions (Merriam Webster)
Religion: (n) 1 a : the state of a religious *a nun in her 20th year of religion* b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : CONSCIENTIOUSNESS
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
-re£li£gion£less adjective

I don't fit any of those definitions. You probably think the last one applies to me, but it doesn't quite.

I have a system of beliefs, but it is not held to with ardour or faith. If somebody shows me that one of my beliefs is false, it won't break my heart.

rosborne979 wrote:

Science derives from the assumption that we are able to understand the world around us,

An assumption that presumes omniscience.

rosborne979 wrote:

It removes the bias that we are superior or inferior to anything in nature,

Not really.

rosborne979 wrote:

Science reveals an elegance and mystery to nature which profoundly supersedes anything offered by religious dogma,

Thus contradicting 'we can understand everything about the world around us.' But providing comic relief.

rosborne979 wrote:

and it leaves open the possibility of spiritual aspects beyond its own bounds.

Not often acknowledged, but good. In practice, though, this is ignored because everything is assumed to have natural causes only.

rosborne979 wrote:

Science is both freeing, and enlightening.

Freeing from what?

rosborne979 wrote:

But it pulls no punches,

Actually it pulls quite a few.

rosborne979 wrote:

so if you're insecure, and need to believe something to bolster your ego as a *special* part of nature, then close your eyes and sit back down on the pew, because it's probably not for you

Typical slam. If you're so secure, 'twould seem to be unnecessary.

That is your belief system. Your system of belief that you hold, is not to care whether or not your belief is true or false.