shewolfnm
 
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Reply Fri 25 Aug, 2006 01:42 pm
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I call the Higher Power in which I believe 'God' because it's a short, simple word, easy to roll off one's lips


very good point.

Alot of times I try to be so literal that I forget God is a pretty common word, not always meant to only acknowledge a man... or male attributes...
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Fri 25 Aug, 2006 05:07 pm
Chai Tea wrote:

are you saying if enough people believe something, that makes it true?.


Well,


Jesus DID walk on water sweetie...




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It's nice to have others input, but life is a solo flight.


applause ..

everyone
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Scott777ab
 
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Reply Fri 25 Aug, 2006 11:25 pm
Shewolf and chai.

Have either one of you ever heard of Silver Ravenwolf?

And if so what do think of the things that she teaches?


Side questions for you two?

1 Do you believe in reincarnation?

2 Karma?

3 Deja Vu?

4 Prophefic Sight?

My Answers to these.
1 Not sure no more.
2 Yes
3 Yes
4 Yes

Dreams I am beginning to believe that dreams are more than Just everything we have seen heard thought of read etc. I am beginning to believe that dreams might also be events from past lives.
Hence Deja Vu.
And dreams also reach into future lives or even this life.
Hence Prophefic Sight.

I am not saying that is a DEFINATE belief of mine.

As far as me using the term GOD it mean to be nothing more than complete balance, in complete perfection.
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Scott777ab
 
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Reply Fri 25 Aug, 2006 11:48 pm
shewolfnm wrote:
Oh honey............. ( shaking head )
oh no, no no no..
Ok.
First off, I need to say that I am not picking on YOU as a person with my answer.
What I am doing is just taking the text, and writting my asnwer next to it.
So please dont take it as an attack.. as it is just conversation.. but I cant guarantee that it wont SOUND like an attack.. ? Ok?
Shocked you said :


I did not take it as an attack thanks for your reply though.

shewolfnm wrote:

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To me God is perfect Balance.
Good and Love perfectly Balanced.
Evil and Hate perfectly Balanced.

Ok.
If you want to understand wicca / wiccans-
You need to know that the term GOD means a male figure.
That can not be balanced.
A balance is a perfect combination of both male and female.
To say God , only acknowledges the male aspect.
To say Goddess only acknowledges the female aspect.
and neither, by themselves, is a perfect balance.


No I have said I believe GOD is perfectly balance male and female.

shewolfnm wrote:

For 'god' ( as the christians see it.. ) to be balanced, he needs to be omnipotent. With the outlines christianity gives him, that isnt possible.
But that is another rant all together.


I see nothing wrong with an all powerful GOD even in this new system of beliefs I am slowly constructing for myself.

shewolfnm wrote:

Wiccans see BOTh male and female , in a sense, 2 seperate dieties .
It requires those 2 dieties to create balance. There is no way around that.


I dont believe there is two, just one who is perfectly balanced Male and Female.

shewolfnm wrote:

Just like in our daily lives, things take 2 , sometimes more elements to create ONE .
A baby takes a male and a female
To grow a seed, it takes dirt and water
To create sand, you need water and a rock
To create water you need hydrogen and oxygen..
etc, etc, etc..

all those things require a third part too, and more than that.

A baby needs food from its mother body while its being made.
The Seed wont grow without light.
Maybe you need sand frist to get the rocks?
And then for every single one of them, you need SPACE. For the object in question to exisist.

shewolfnm wrote:

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God hates IMO those who commit murder for example.
But loves IMO those who love one and another.

Biblical examples that only come into play in a christians life.
This, i have no opinion on, other then christianity bashing statements wich have no place here as that is not the discussion.


Sorry I must disagree here. I believe it is pure evil to HARM another.

shewolfnm wrote:

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Can't think of and evil good example. LOL but i still believe God is perfect balance.

See above.
Evil by itself is nothing.
Nothing is bad, nothing is good.
It is personal thought that makes it either way.


Must disagree again. See above.

shewolfnm wrote:

When it comes to life as a Wiccan, there is no good OR bad definations.


And that IMO is where it lacks.

shewolfnm wrote:

Meaning-
your ACTIONS are not always easily defined as good or bad.
You are judged by your intent.
Wich most people do anyway.
Example-
the man who breaks into an apartment, trashing the wholeplace to save someones life.


If you reread what you have posted you will notice now that your aruging against what you have said eariler.

shewolfnm wrote:

Well, in the court of law, that breaking and entering, destruction of property and tresspassing are NOT seen as a bad thing, because he was intending on saving someone.
Where as the thief who does that same thing, but with out the intent of saving someone, is thrown in jail.
Make sense?


See above.

shewolfnm wrote:

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Now the reason for the wicca post is because of all the symbols that represent a duality the circle split in half with an s, the star of david.
Huh?


Does the term "that which is above is the same as that which is below" mean anything to you?

shewolfnm wrote:

Quote:
" I am building up my own personal system of beliefs that is based on every relgion and faith I have ever studied. Which includes wicca."

You have alot of studying to do.
So keep the questions coming, and as I feel comfortable, I will slather you with answers and correct information. Smile


Yes I know. If you have any questions you would like to ask of me ask them. Like if there is something you wish me to consider and think upon ask it please.

shewolfnm wrote:

Quote:
Wiccains in general DONT BELIEVE IN SATAN.

There is no 'in general' about it.
Wiccans do not recognize Satan as a diety of any kind.
He belongs to christianity. Period.


Yes I know. But not exactly true, many none christains relgions have a SATAN, Loki is a good example of one.

shewolfnm wrote:

Quote:
Good and Love perfectly Balanced.
Evil and Hate perfectly Balanced
.
I do not believe this is possible.
You are weighing 2 diffrent versions of the same side of the spectrum at one time.
Good = love correct?
So how can that be a balance when there is no opposing force?


I don't really understand why I typed it that way.
But it seems RIGHT.
Just everything about it seems RIGHT.

Good and Love perfectly Balanced.
Evil and Hate perfectly Balanced


shewolfnm wrote:

Quote:
(There is too many relgions that believe God became a man for it to be false. Although most of these other relgions believe in more than one God too.)

Actually, if you look really hard at 'those religions' you will see they are all a diffrent version of the same thing.
So , essentially there is only ONE religion that believes in this -god died for your sins- behavior/story. That is christianity.


No your wrong christanity is a baby relgion compared to most other relgions.

shewolfnm wrote:
Quote:
I believe God is perfectly balanced Male and Female.

Then it could not only be referred to as 'god' as , god is a male only term for a diety.


I will use GOD it is just much easier for me. Creator just don't smack of what I believe. Actually maybe i should use a term from the bible.
Shocked GODHEAD? Shocked
Nah.
Not quite it either any suggestions?
Creator just don't spark me as being right.
And please don't ask me what I mean by spark.
I am not quite sure.
Ok.
Very Happy
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Sun 27 Aug, 2006 07:35 am
I am sorry I have not taken time to write a responce to you in a few days.
I have had a lot on my plate, and have only really had time to stop in and post a few lines, then leave.


I think, one thing I failed to do with my answer was to specify the reason for WHY the term God, according to Wiccans , can not be used to refer to one god/dess


We recognize both opposing forces.
There is not one single embodyment of perfect balance according to Wicca.
There ARE exceptions to this rule.. though I can not think of an example off the top of my head...

But when you say god to a wiccan, we automatically think of the male forces. Not one single deity, or the one universal conscious.

It is like saying male when you are trying to specify an entire society.
The person who hears male automatically only thinks of the men, and not the entire society . See what I am saying?

And that is why I was really taking a strong stand point on the term god.
But, I just didnt make it too clear..
my own fault.
I tend to do that a bit.. I type faster then I think. Laughing


Quote:
I see nothing wrong with an all powerful GOD even in this new system of beliefs I am slowly constructing for myself


I am not saying there is anything wrong with the idea. I was just trying to clarify what the term god means for a wiccan, and why.



Quote:
all those things require a third part too, and more than that.


Absolutly.
That is why I said 'sometimes more' because there are alot of bits and pieces to each puzzle.

Example- making sand.
yes, you need sand first to make rocks.
Then you need heat and pressure.

Then to make sand again, you need running water, other forms of friction to break the rock down, and heat .

But that is just an example.
What I am trying to get at using those examples, is that wiccan dieties come into play sort of like that.
There are many dieties and each have a specific strength. So , when you need one result, you can call on a few to assist you ( pray to them if you will) and the combination of those dieties bring you exactly what you need.

With that thought process, and that may dieties recognized, it is impossible for a Wiccan to see just one god / goddess...

Does that answer make more sense?
I think I really lost my point with my previous post.. Embarrassed
I tend to ramble alot. HA!
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Scott777ab
 
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Reply Sun 27 Aug, 2006 09:19 am
shewolfnm wrote:

Example- making sand.
yes, you need sand first to make rocks.
Then you need heat and pressure.
Then to make sand again, you need running water, other forms of friction to break the rock down, and heat .


I must disagree.
I believe in creation is why

shewolfnm wrote:

With that thought process, and that may dieties recognized, it is impossible for a Wiccan to see just one god / goddess...
Does that answer make more sense?


yes if that works for you.
but it don't for me
Just saying god is easier.

shewolfnm wrote:

I think I really lost my point with my previous post.. Embarrassed
I tend to ramble alot. HA!


No you made your point just fine.
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sillhouette
 
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Reply Wed 13 Sep, 2006 02:21 pm
shewolfnm wrote:
Jesus DID walk on water sweetie... ?.



was he wearing big rubber shoes?
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Dorothy Parker
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 04:18 am
Saw that film the Wicca Man the other night - Christ that is some freaky ****.
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Bohne
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 04:41 am
I am very intrigued by it!
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sillhouette
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 05:55 pm
Dorothy Parker wrote:
Saw that film the Wicca Man the other night - Christ that is some freaky ****.


that movie sucks.. one of Nick's worst films. cant wait till Ghost Rider though
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