Wicca

just wash afterwords darling



i dont care what he says


them aint no m&m's

I don't know what that means, and I don't want to know.

what gave it away?

My feathers on my car?
The pentacle on my window?
The oils on my feet?

just dont ever fall for it ok ?

The name of the film is The WICKER man. It is about a pagan religion, but it is not spelled out in the film if the religion is Wicca.

Most UU churches in the US have Wiccan and/or earth-centric groups who meet regularly and put on their own festivals.

Shewolf and Chai i have lost my belief in the bible.
But i still believe in God.

Let me try to explain a bit


To me God is perfect Balance.
Good and Love perfectly Balanced.
Evil and Hate perfectly Balanced.

God hates IMO those who commit murder for example.
But loves IMO those who love one and another.

Can't think of and evil good example. LOL but i still believe God is perfect balance.

Now the reason for the wicca post is because of all the symbols that represent a duality the circle split in half with an s, the star of david.

I find it sick that christian think that cause wiccaians use a 5 pointed star that they worship satan when if you cut an apple a certain way what do you find.
THe 5 pointed star.

Right now Shewolf and Chai I guess you could more likely say " I am building up my own personal system of beliefs that is based on every relgion and faith I have ever studied. Which includes wicca."

When I was in church the main thing that they PUSH ON YOU is that witches worship SATAN. ANd they don't give any room of discussion on this well I have bought several books on wicca and know this to be FALSE.
Wiccains in general DONT BELIEVE IN SATAN.

But even though I don't trust the bible to be the word of god, I still understand and that is why I love to argue with NEO about it. LOL

Let me give you a more full example of what I do believe.

To me God is perfect Balance.
Good and Love perfectly Balanced.
Evil and Hate perfectly Balanced.

God hates IMO those who commit murder for example.
But loves IMO those who love one and another.

God has become a man and died for them to save them from being a disabled creature of his that is not perfectly balanced.
(There is too many relgions that believe God became a man for it to be false. Although most of these other relgions believe in more than one God too.)
I believe there is only one God.
I believe God is perfectly balanced Male and Female.

Everything else is still wide open and under review.

You need help, Scottie. (Keep talking to Chai Tea and Shewolf. You might get it.)

And what do I need HELP with?
Please be more specific, don't leave me with vague statements. Ok? Thanks.

Wicca...
Christianity with a twist of feminism and some new curtains.

Wicca and Christianity are nothing alike Dok and if you think so you need to keep your very much UNinformed opinion out of it.

Now would be a good time to review this observation:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1825388#1825388

Not trying to be a smart butt here neo.
I am trying to be nice to you.
But what is your point with that post about that post?
It seems to have flown over my head as how that relates to this post at all.


Now be nice neo i know I left myself open to be slammed with that last statement. LOL

What post about that post?

Whose post?

:wink:

Sometimes your pain Neo.
What was the point of your linking to that post.

Must the point be somewhere other than on one's head?

Er, in one's head?

Oh honey............. ( shaking head )


oh no, no no no..


Ok.

First off, I need to say that I am not picking on YOU as a person with my answer.
What I am doing is just taking the text, and writting my asnwer next to it.
So please dont take it as an attack.. as it is just conversation.. but I cant guarantee that it wont SOUND like an attack.. ? Ok?



you said :





Ok.
If you want to understand wicca / wiccans-
You need to know that the term GOD means a male figure.
That can not be balanced.
A balance is a perfect combination of both male and female.
To say God , only acknowledges the male aspect.
To say Goddess only acknowledges the female aspect.
and neither, by themselves, is a perfect balance.

For 'god' ( as the christians see it.. ) to be balanced, he needs to be omnipotent. With the outlines christianity gives him, that isnt possible.
But that is another rant all together.

Wiccans see BOTh male and female , in a sense, 2 seperate dieties .
It requires those 2 dieties to create balance. There is no way around that.

Just like in our daily lives, things take 2 , sometimes more elements to create ONE .
A baby takes a male and a female
To grow a seed, it takes dirt and water
To create sand, you need water and a rock
To create water you need hydrogen and oxygen..

etc, etc, etc..





Biblical examples that only come into play in a christians life.

This, i have no opinion on, other then christianity bashing statements wich have no place here as that is not the discussion.




See above.
Evil by itself is nothing.
Nothing is bad, nothing is good.
It is personal thought that makes it either way.

When it comes to life as a Wiccan, there is no good OR bad definations.
Meaning-
your ACTIONS are not always easily defined as good or bad.
You are judged by your intent.
Wich most people do anyway.

Example-
the man who breaks into an apartment, trashing the wholeplace to save someones life.

Well, in the court of law, that breaking and entering, destruction of property and tresspassing are NOT seen as a bad thing, because he was intending on saving someone.

Where as the thief who does that same thing, but with out the intent of saving someone, is thrown in jail.

Make sense?



Huh?




You have alot of studying to do.
So keep the questions coming, and as I feel comfortable, I will slather you with answers and correct information.



There is no 'in general' about it.
Wiccans do not recognize Satan as a diety of any kind.
He belongs to christianity. Period.

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I do not believe this is possible.

You are weighing 2 diffrent versions of the same side of the spectrum at one time.
Good = love correct?
So how can that be a balance when there is no opposing force?





Actually, if you look really hard at 'those religions' you will see they are all a diffrent version of the same thing.
So , essentially there is only ONE religion that believes in this -god died for your sins- behavior/story. That is christianity.




Then it could not only be referred to as 'god' as , god is a male only term for a diety.

The comment made that too many religions believe God became a man for it to be false....

are you saying if enough people believe something, that makes it true?



I think each of us has to find out own way in this world, as far as what we believe. People sitting in the same pew in the same church may say they have the same beliefs, but of course that's impossible because we all experience life from our own viewpoint, and no one elses.

Wars over whose religion is right? Arguments over whose faith is correct? I think one of the biggest mistakes was having all these different faiths written down on paper. If people were unable to cite a particular page of a particular book showing for certain that something must be true, because "it's written here" the world would be a much more tolerant place to live.

I don't have a problem with the word God because it's just easier for others to know what you are referring to.

In my heart though, I feel the word Creator. That doesn't imply male or female.

I don't have a particular name for the things I believe scott, I couldn't say to someonel...wow, we seem to be close in our beliefs, let's call ourselves a name.

It's nice to have others input, but life is a solo flight.

See. that's what I was laking about, Scott. Keep talking to Chai and Shewolf. They may straighten you out yet.

(Aside to Shewolf: for me, 'God' has no gender. I call the Higher Power in which I believe 'God' because it's a short, simple word, easy to roll off one's lips. For all I care, others may call it 'the Force.' And I always use the neutral pronoun 'it,' never referring to God as 'he' or 'she'.)