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Reply Tue 28 Nov, 2006 11:03 am
I'm doing ok
(so far!)

Here's a small part of the man's message

"Here is the statement I want to make: if I am required to pay for your barbaric war, I choose not to live in your world. I refuse to finance the mass murder of innocent civilians, who did nothing to threaten our country. I will not participate in your charade - my conscience will not allow me to be a part of your crusade. There might be some who say "it's a coward's way out" - that opinion is so idiotic that it requires no response. From my point of view, I am opening a new door......."

RIP Malachi Ritscher
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Reply Tue 28 Nov, 2006 11:18 am
http://www.vetsofwarvetsofpeace.org/images/vowvop%20copy.jpg
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Reply Tue 28 Nov, 2006 01:35 pm
A look at Police Brutality - student tased for not producing ID
What next?
Hung for stealing bread?

http://www.able2know.com/forums/a2k-post2404565.html#2404565
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Reply Tue 28 Nov, 2006 04:30 pm
Look into the harrowing black,
Of the crimson skies,
Another person to torture,
As another person dies,

Look into the narrowing crack,
Of what your mind complies,
As leaders make a fool of you,
Behind your bloodshot eyes,
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Reply Tue 28 Nov, 2006 07:52 pm
Diagnosis




I'm sick of brutality
Fabricated reality
The lies and deceit
The fashionable elite
I'm sick of their greed
The lives that they lead
Cheating for gain
And ignoring the shame
I'm sick of their cowardice
Their coldness
Their spite
I'm sick of the rich
And I'm sick of the right
With their covetous arse-licking
Climb to new heights
I'm sick of the horror
I'm sick of the grief
I'm sick of their smiles
And the evil beneath
I'm sick of pretending
I've still got some pride
This war makes me sick
And I'm sick of the ride





Endymion 2006



*Bawb, thanks for helping to get me back into writing this **** - it helps
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Reply Tue 28 Nov, 2006 08:50 pm
Exxon

He thought that everyone should have known the evil days were coming
when Esso changed its name to Exxon.
Esso slipped comfortably out of the mouth like the sound of a man
relaxing in a hammock. Exxon sounded like the name of a warlord
from the planet Yurir.



Stephen King (Roadwork - The Bachman Books )
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Reply Wed 29 Nov, 2006 10:00 am
US forces kill two women in Iraq

US forces in Iraq have killed two women in an air attack on a house in Baquba,
a day after five girls were killed by US tank fire in Ramadi.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6194484.stm

*****************


Let us stop the killing
Let's go home
It's f*cked up and we know it
Why postpone it?
This war is killing our friends
Killing our country
And killing an innocent nation
There is nothing here for us now
But death or corruption
This will be our suicide
Unless we admit we were wrong
Let us stop the killing
Let's go home
Where we belong
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Reply Wed 29 Nov, 2006 10:08 am

Fires started at asylum complex


Large-scale disturbances are taking place in the UK's largest immigration detention centre.



Police, prison officers and fire crews were called to the Harmondsworth centre, west London, in the early hours after a number of fires were started.

About 50 detainees have been seen in a courtyard spelling out the words help and SOS with bed sheets.

A prisons' watchdog report criticised the centre's regime this week after repeated disturbances there.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6194410.stm

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42370000/jpg/_42370712_prisonhelp_203.jpg
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Reply Wed 29 Nov, 2006 07:04 pm
Something I stumbled across

Tamil words



What is a trans state nation? A trans state nation is a cultural, economic and political togetherness of a people living in many lands and across distant seas. It is a togetherness consolidated by struggle and suffering. It is not an 'idealism' expressed only in word. It is a political togetherness expressed in tangible deed. It is a togetherness directed to secure the aspirations of a people for equality and freedom - finding expression in establishing, nurturing and maintaining governmental or non governmental networks or institutions necessary for that purpose.

Again, all this, is not to say that a people should not at the same time, work toward the ideal of a 'one world' where the separate national identities of the world are transcended by a greater unity.

However, that unity will not come by the suppression of one nation by another. It will come from truly understanding the timeless force of that which Kanniyan Poongundran said in the Purananuru, some 2500 years ago -

"To us all towns are one, all men our kin.
Life's good comes not from others' gift, nor ill
Man's pains and pains' relief are from within.
Death's no new thing; nor do our bosoms thrill
When Joyous life seems like a luscious draught.
When grieved, we patient suffer; for, we deem
This much - praised life of ours a fragile raft
Borne down the waters of some mountain stream
That o'er huge boulders roaring seeks the plain
Tho' storms with lightnings' flash from darken'd skies
Descend, the raft goes on as fates ordain.
Thus have we seen in visions of the wise ! -
We marvel not at greatness of the great;
Still less despise we men of low estate."

Kanniyan Poongundran in Purananuru,
Poem 192 - written in Tamil 2500 years ago
English Translation by Rev. G.U.Pope
in Tamil Heroic Poems





http://www.tamilnation.org/index.htm
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Reply Thu 30 Nov, 2006 11:12 am
Sunday, November 26, 2006
No Time For Democratic Timidity

"A nation which has forgotten the quality of courage which in the past has been brought to public life is not as likely to insist upon or reward that quality in its chosen leaders today".

John F. Kennedy
from the book
Profiles In Courage (1956)

"What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage"

Bert Lahr
from the movie
The Wizard of Oz (1939)

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Here's what I've been fearing since the election: after being out of power for twelve long, depressing years, the Democrats decide that they don't want to blow a good thing by showing - Heaven forfend, dear reader - political courage. Now that the mid-term elections of 7 November are safely a thing of the past, the Dems are staring to display weak knees by hinting that the impeachment of the most criminal president since the invention of dirt is not only not on the table, it's not even an option. Can they be serious? Have they lost their minds? Or is this simply a tactical ploy for political purposes. Time will tell. But the soon-to-be majority party had better know this: if ever there was a time for courage on the part of our elected representitives this is the time. As FDR said during his first inaugural, "The American people want action and action NOW"! We elected the Democratic party - not Republican-lite! This is not a time to be worrying about one's politcal future but the future of the USA. For inspiration, I highly reccommend the Pulitzer Prize-winning book, Profiles In Courage, written in 1956 by one of their party's icons, John Fitzgerald Kennedy of Massachusetts. Not a bad read.

Consider our good fortune as a nation: for the first two-hundred and twelve years of the American presidency - but for sheer luck (or God's grace) - every time this country faced a major calamity, we've had a man of exceptional character and insight living in the executive mansion. Think about it!

1: The Civil War: Abraham Lincoln
2: The assualt on American workers by the robber barrons: Theodore Roosevelt
3: World War I: Woodrow Wilson
4: The Great Depression and World War II: Franklin D. Roosevelt
5: Post war re-construction of Europe: Harry S Truman
6: The Cuban Missle Crisis: John F. Kennedy (My! His name is just popping up everywhere today, isn't it?)

Well guess what? Our luck ran out on September 11, 2001. On that day, thanks to a stolen election, George W. Bush was the president of the United States; a man not elected by the people, but selected by the Supreme Court; a man who is already labeled by people alot smarter than me (Helen Thomas, for instance) as the worst president in history; a man who has driven our once-great nation to the precipice of international shame and ruin. That the invasion of Iraq was merely a way for poltically connected companies to make a literal financial killing off of this obscene war is now obvious to every thinking person. Iraq already had a viable (if somewhat tarnished) infrastructure prior to March of 2003. The Iraqi people should have been the ones put to work rebuilding their country. Instead most of the work went to American companies like Titan, Bechtel and Kellogg, Brown and Root. For more on that subject, please see Robert Greenwald's excellent new documentary, Iraq For Sale. That the people of that country lashed out in violent retribution at the plunder inflicted by the US should have come as a surprise to no one. It certainly didn't to me.

By year's end the number of American victims of Bush's war will be at or near three-thousand. These are kids who innocently joined the military to get an education or in a fit of patriotic fervor after September 11, 2001. It's a fairly safe bet that it was never their intention to get involved in an invasion of a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 and that was never a serious threat to American security. And while we're on the nasty subject of victims, do I even have to mention the half a million or so Iraqi men, women and little children who have died as a result of this obscenity? I didn't think so.

Historical hindsight is really a neat thing. It's almost hard to believe that, just a little over half a century ago, the late Joe McCarthy was not only taken seriously by many Americans, he was actually beloved by some! Today we look back at grainy black and white news reel footage of the Senator from Wisconsin and we cringe in disgust. With the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, does the First Fool have any idea how jaw-droppingly stupid he looks when, today, only three and a half years after the fact, we look at the videotapes and photos of him prancing around the deck of that aircraft carrier in that grotesque GI Joe flight suit with that disgusting smirk on his face and that ridiculous banner flying overhead?

Mission accomplished, indeed.

For the first time in over a decade, the Democrats have the power of the supeona and, if they know what's good for them, they'd damn well better use it. Billions of dollars have been squandered and stolen in what is, without any doubt, the worst military blunder since Adolf Hitler invaded the Soviet Union almost sixty-five years ago. Future presidents who probably haven't even been born yet will still be dealing with the damage that this dim-witted little jackass did to his country and the planet so many years before. Investigating, removing and punishing this administration for their crimes against humanity will not only be an option of the 110th Congress, it is their duty. A precedent must be established: that no leader shall, without threat of imprisonment, cynically violate the will of the framers of the Constitution and the trust of the people - That's Weeda Peeple, kiddies! This is our country! This is our Constitution! Bush and Cheney need to be held accountable for the damage they've done to it.

Eight years ago, Bill Clinton was almost forcably removed from office for lying about having an extra-marital affair. When are we going to stand up and admit that Clinton's relatively minor transgressions are but a cup of water when compared to the Bush Mob's moral and ethical tsunami?

I left the Democratic Party seven years ago and have not once regretted it. Will this new batch of Dems only reinforce my decision to leave? Or will they finally show some guts? We cannot afford to wait until January 20, 2009 for this nightmare of an administration to end - it must be ended as soon as possible. Don't be fooled into thinking that this contemptable thug couldn't possibly do any more damage than he's already done to your country. During the next two years and two months he can and will do alot more damage - trust me on this one, folks - he's got to be impeahed. Period

The future of the republic depends entirely on the conduct of the 110th Congress in 2007 and 2008. Everything is riding on their courage and tenacity. Generations yet unborn will be affected by their actions and the outcome of those actions. While I'm optimistic, I'm only cautiously so. Pray they don't blow it again. Oh yeah, and while you're at it....

Pray for peace.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY


http://tomdegan.blogspot.com/
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Reply Fri 1 Dec, 2006 09:05 am
I ask myself, "Why are you afraid?"
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On Saturday morning I shall be in Oxford, making my way, with thousands of others to the biggest military base in Britain - RAF Brize Norton - the most important British base for maintaining the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan.

When visiting Britain, George Bush and the CIA fly into Brize Norton, used as a staging post by the CIA to fly 'suspects' out to various secret locations for interrogation and torture.
It is also used to forcibly expel asylum-seekers to Iraq.

Brize Norton was used in August by US planes taking munitions to the Israeli Defence Force to bomb Lebanon.

It is also the base that receives our own military dead.

Bring The Troops Home Now

The march to the gates of Brize Norton will be led by military
personnel (Conscious objectors, veterans and those who have done time for refusing to act on illegal orders).

The Stop The War Coalition has sent out word, asking for everyone to 'Bring flowers as a sign of respect for the dead of every nation'

As a 'recluse' and sufferer of PTSD, this is not an easy journey for me to make. (I've spoken about the reasons in 'Why I March')

I ask myself, "Why are you afraid?"
And the answer I get back has more to do with pride than anything.
Being in crowds - even in a high-street - can freak me out.
(Cold sweats, trembling, flashbacks, panic attacks, none can be pre-empted or easily dealt with). On the marches people talk to me, but I can only stammer and stutter like a shy kid. It is horrible.
On top of that, I have high adrenaline and Exaggerated Startle Reflex- which causes aching joints, headaches, and backache. It is as if my danger button has been pushed and lodged in the ON position. At such times, I am just a man, but my brain is on RED ALERT. I jump at loud noises - I can't help it. It is humiliating and humbling.

For the last few weeks I have been saying to myself, "I don't know if I can go. Suppose I have a break down in front of all those people?"

But I am going, I made up my mind yesterday really, but today I had another sign - this time from Mike Moore - a message that has convinced me.

Why I'm Going
*************

Yesterday I was telling a friend about the Ceasefire Demo in London March 5th - called in emergency response to the bombing of Lebanon. It was a solidarity march, that sent a very strong message to parliament - a message that confirmed the majority of Brits were sickened by Tony Blair's failure to call for a ceasefire from Israel.
100,000 people turned out at short notice and I was one of them.
Something happened to me on that march.

It is hard to write down, because I know I cannot do the moment justice. But let me try.

As I walked along, beside all sorts of brave and conscientious people, I became aware of a young Muslim woman wearing a pale blue headscarf, a denim jacket and long skirt. She was very petite (I felt like a man on stilts walking along beside her).
She was with a group of other women - some Asian, some white, and one elderly grandmother that the others took turns giving a supportive arm to.
As they walked, they sung in girlish but strong voices…
"Free free Palestine, long live Lebanon….. free free Palestine, long live Lebanon."
A couple of times she looked at me and smiled and I tried not to scare her too much with my scarred face and bloodshot eyes (I'd been up drinking all the night before - convinced I would never be able to get my **** together and go).
A group of youths overtook us, some bare-chested - all handsome, singing, "We are all Hezbollah, we are all Hezbollah…" They had their fists in the air, but for the most part they were grinning.
It occurred to me that although I was walking in the very streets I grew up in, I felt suddenly surrounded by a fiercely proud and totally different make-up of people to the ones I'd grown up around.

I thought of Lieutenant-Colonel T E Lawrence then, and understood how he had been charmed and impressed by the gentle strength of middle-eastern peoples.

I watched a Buddist Monk pass me, tapping a small drum, his orange robes stark against the dirty grey London street.

And I saw Jewish men carrying banners that declared : End Zionist Aggression

I felt a moment of deep, dark sadness then. Because I understood that what we were sharing here in this solidarity march was an experience people like Tony Blair have no grasp of. The unity of the differences was palpable. The strength of it you could feel in the air.

Everyone who has died in this fiasco of 'War on Terror' - the Iraqis, the British, the Afghans, the Americans (and there were many US and Canadian citizens marching with us that day) other coalition troops, journalists of all nations, the Lebanese, the Palestinians and Israelis (all who suffer as a result of the Bush Blair war on Muslims) - the tortured suspects released uncharged, the crippled and suicidal vets I'd personally met….
all these thousands seemed to be with us that day, marching for Peace.

The woman in the head scarf felt it too. She came closer to me, singing, smiling at me. She was so beautiful and precious and brave that I had to look away. Below my feet, my shadow moved with the rhythm of the march.
Then I felt a hand on my back and looked up into the sun before turning to her beside me. She had stopped singing and was staring intently at me. I couldn't speak. For some reason I wanted to cry.
She smiled and patted my back. Nodded at me. I returned a smile - which made her whole face light up. She wasn't just beautiful now - she was something I don't know how to describe.
She broke my heart, but somehow healed it too, as she threw back her head and gave the warbling cry of celebration given by billions of women before her - a sound so ancient and powerful I was stunned by it. Many women around us took up the cry (I'm sorry, I don't know the proper term for this), and I was amazed to see them all smiling at me.
What it really meant, I have no idea. But those women injected me with some strength and bravery that I've carried with me ever since.

There's irony in this.
Because my own country had let me down, crushed my pride and belief in what's right and left me weak. Then along came this Muslim woman, who some wrongly think I should see as a threat or even as the enemy - and she made me feel 'whole' again.
Alive.
Free.
I lost sight of her later, amongst the 100,000 crowd. But I never forgot her.

When I finished telling my friend about that experience, he said, "… that alone must have made it all worthwhile to you."
He was right.

Today, looking at Mike Moore's site, I was again reminded of the bravery of women. Today is the anniversary of Dec 1st 1955 - when Rosa Parks was arrested for refusing to give up her seat on a bus to a white passenger.

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/brown/images/br0119s.jpg

Confronted with the bravery of such women - what's a man to do?
Simple.
I will march tomorrow - whatever the fear of that might be for me, because right now I need to stand up for what I believe in.
Unity and Peace.





Endy
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 10:34 pm
Peace Demo RAF Brize Norton


The demonstration at Brize Norton was the smallest I have been on so far - about 500 people - although Indymedia say 700.

Every single demonstrator there was photographed by the police, which wasn't wholly unexpected… but the crowd spotted an unmarked car parked up the road from where we gathered in an exposed field before marching into the village.
The car had tinted windows and cameras with weighty zoom lenses poked out at us, like something from a Hollywood movie.

We set off on the march, led by police on horseback, and at one point we walked under a foot bridge lined with police taking photos of our faces, scarves, balaclavas and what ever else people chose to cover their faces with. Some didn't try to hide who they were.

After leaving flowers at the gates of the base, where the names of soldiers and civilians killed in Iraq were being read out, we moved on to the village war memorial where a minute's silence was observed by both the demonstrators and the villagers, some who stood on the pavements looking all but stunned by our audacity. (Many work on the base or are related to those that do.)

We gathered to listen to the speakers, and it was mentioned that we had all been photographed and how shameful it was that the police should be intimidating peaceful demonstrators. Of course, the crowd agreed with that!
*********
Tony Flint, a (First) Gulf war veteran with depleted uranium in his kidney, talked about the average death rate amongst the Gulf war veterans being just under two per week and a speaker from 'At Ease' was there to talk about the help-line available to those in the forces who need to talk over their options.

**********

Here's a report from Indymedia UK on Kate Hudson's speech (Leader of CND)

Quote:
Kate Hudson
Kate mentioned some of the reports which indicate how the situation in Iraq is deteriorating. One report she cited from the World Health Organisation, saying that 90% of hospitals did not have the necessary medications and equipment to treat their patients. Another report she cited said that the majority of Iraq's oil resources were to be put under the control of multinational corporations. We must make a clear demand that warmongering countries should not be allowed to profiteer in the ruins of Iraq, she said.

Recalling Tony Flint's speech, she said that the use of depleted uranium would be a legacy for many generations, not only for the British servicemen but also for the people of Iraq. She also said we must not forget the consequences of the use of cluster bombs and white phosphorous. The use of those types of weapons, she said, constitutes war crimes.

She highlighted the hypocrisy of our government over weapons, saying that the white paper on the future of the Trident nuclear weapons system will be published on Monday. We have been committed for over thirty years under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty to decommission our nuclear weapons, but have made no progress towards that end, and at the same time go attacking Iraq under the possible suspicion that they might have been developing weapons of mass destruction.

Simon


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Felicity Arbuthnot (On child trauma ) - (audio)
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/media/2006/12//357659.mp3

She explains how she came to be given this poem

The name is love
The class is mindless
The school is suffering
The government is sadness
The city is sighing
The street is misery
And the home number is one thousand sighs.


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Andrew Murray (Chairman STWC)

"George Bush is talking about "staying the course, presumably meaning continuing the occupation until the last Iraqi is dead, or has fled like the 2 million Iraqi refugees around the middle east."


*********

Jeremy Corbyn, rebel Labour MP
Quote:
INDYMEDIA
When Tony Blair spoke in Afghanistan a few weeks ago, he made a blood-curdling, chilling and stupid speech, all at the same time, saying that the empire must win in Afghanistan. This, said Jeremy, was a very dangerous notion, that we need to win in Afghanistan in order to prevent the world falling into some kind of evil abyss in the future. For most people, in most places around the world, the threats they face are poverty, homelessness, hunger, AIDS, sanitation, life expectancy below forty, and environmental destruction.

And what alternative are we offering to those people around the world, he asked. Trident being replaced. Billions being spent on new weapons of indiscriminate mass destruction, as a lesson to the rest of the world. Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Constant re-armament by the west to pursue more and more neo-colonial wars around the world. None of that, he said, will bring peace, none of that will bring justice, none of that will bring safety for our children and their children after them.


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Colin Fox, Scottish Socialist Party MSP

"What will Tony Blair be remembered for? Will he be remembered as the man who brought twenty years of the hated Tories to an end? Will he be remembered as the first Labour leader elected with a working majority? Will he be remembered as the first Labour prime minister to be elected three times? No he won't. He'll be remembered as a liar and the worst leader this country has ever had."

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Caroline Lucas, Green MEP

Quote:
INDYMEDIA
We're also gathered to remember the thousands of people who are dying week in and week out in Iraq. Those deaths are now so commonplace, she said, that they are relegated to the end of our news bulletins and to the edges of our newspapers. We're here to say that we remember them not as abstract figures, but as individual human beings, each of which has family and friends who still mourn them.

But let's not forget our own troops, she said, because the last few months have seen terrible bloodshed for them as well. And what support do they get from their political leaders back home? They get an Armed Forces Bill which will punish soldiers who refuse to take part in a military occupation of a foreign country with life imprisonment. And what's more just 18 people in the house of commons voted against that piece of legislation.

Our message, she said, is that it's not soldiers who should be criminalized and imprisoned for refusing an illegal war, it's our political leaders who should be indicted for war crimes.

It's clear after 9/11, she said, that this new doctrine of unilateralist and pre-emptive democratisation has been a reckless adventure that has just done Osama bin Laden's recruitment work for him. Blair and Bush claim that terrorists hate us for our freedoms. Do they really not think it's because our respective governments support the Israelis who have massacred refugee columns, who fired into Red Crescent ambulances, and who slaughtered more than a thousand Lebanese civilians? Do they really believe it's got nothing to do with the massacre at Fallujah, or the obscenities of Abu Grahib or Guantanamo Bay?


********

Lindsey German of the Stop the War Coalition announced that there would be a demonstration outside parliament on 20th March.



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Not So Easy

The demo was necessary but I must confess that I felt depressed during this one. Maybe because we were so few - or maybe because there was nothing 'new' to be said.
I also felt very exposed and angered by the blatant efforts of the police to intimidate us. The depressing sight of the council-like houses, some boarded up, all looking in need of extra finance, did not help. It's too easy to remember that some British soldiers have died in Iraq while being paid less than the minimum wage!

However, I shall carry forever one memory of the day with me.
As we turned from the base, ordered by the police to move on and silent after hearing the name of an 18 year old soldier KIA called out, a man started to sing slowly along to his guitar in a soft and perfectly clear, mature voice….

"We shall overcome,
We shall overcome,
We shall overcome some day…a..a..a.yy..aayyy;
Deep in my heart,
I do believe,
We shall overcome someday."

At that moment I couldn't help but wonder how we had arrived at this point - where yet again, the people have no option but to try and point out to the idiots 'in charge' that they are doing more harm than good - in fact they are not helping their country or their people at all.

And Tony Blair STILL hasn't met with ANY of the dead military's families, despite year in year out requests.

*********

I woke up on Sunday afternoon totally shattered, aching and saddened by a feeling of hopelessness. By chance, I happened to look on the Gandhi thread I'd started a few weeks go and saw someone had left a post for me.
And a poem

Here it is: http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2391819#2391819

What incredable timing.

Just what i needed!


Peace
Endy


*************

Ekla chalo re meaning walk alone



If they answer not to thy call walk alone,
If they are afraid and cower mutely facing the wall,
O thou of evil luck,
open thy mind and speak out alone.

If they turn away, and desert you when crossing the wilderness,
O thou of evil luck,
trample the thorns under thy tread,
and along the blood-lined track travel alone.

If they do not hold up the light when the night is troubled with storm,
O thou of evil luck,
with the thunder flame of pain ignite thy own heart
and let it burn alone.
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 08:20 am
Trident is legally and morally questionable, says church



Matthew Tempest, political correspondent
Tuesday December 5, 2006
Guardian Unlimited

The Church of England expressed grave doubts today over the government's decision to renew Britain's nuclear missile system, branding the weapons "indiscriminate and horrendous".

The Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, stopped just short of condemning the decision to spend £20bn upgrading the Trident system, but queried the recommendation on moral, legal and ethical grounds.

And Dr Williams stressed that the issue of nuclear destruction was "no less grave" now than at the height of the cold war.

In a statement put out on his behalf by Lambeth Palace, Dr Williams agreed with the prime minister that there was a need for a "genuine debate" over the UK's continued nuclear power status.

And he welcomed the fact that the prime minister yesterday "accepted that there are perfectly respectable arguments against the judgments the government has made and that he both understood them and appreciated their force."

But in a clear indication of the church's feelings on the matter, Dr Williams listed no positive aspects to maintaining a nuclear deterrent, and listed a series of "grave" ethical concerns.

He said: "Then [in the cold war], as now, these are weapons that are intrinsically indiscriminate in their lethal effects, and their long-term impact on a whole physical environment would be horrendous.

"While there is evidently disagreement - among Christians as well as others - over whether the mere threat of use is morally acceptable, we should not lose sight of what the government itself has called the 'terrifying power' of these weapons."

He added that the legality of a programme of updating Trident was open to question under non-proliferation agreements.

There were also questions about the strategic value of replacing Trident, he said, especially against a background of "acute" pressures on the armed services.

Dr Williams warned that Christians would make their feelings on the issue known to the government.

He added: "The white paper must not close down discussion. We need a genuine debate in which Christians, and others whose consciences are disturbed by these proposals, will want to play a full part.

"Many will never be persuaded of the morality of a nuclear deterrent; many more will feel that the case needs to be very strongly made for a programme of modernisation at this point if we are to avoid the suspicion that this is about reinforcing national status, at a very high cost to our actual military and strategic commitments at the present moment."

Dr Williams's remarks come after strong condemnation of the updating or renewing of Trident from other Christian religious leaders.

Methodist, Baptist and United Reformed Church leaders yesterday voiced their opposition to renewal or replacement.

The Catholic bishops of Scotland, England and Wales have also issued statements opposing the plans.

The leader of the Anglican Church in Wales, the Archbishop of Wales, Barry Morgan, said earlier this year that the money proposed for replacing Trident could be used to prevent 16,000 children dying every day from diseases caused by impure water and malnutrition.

In July, a group of bishops warned Tony Blair that the possession of Trident nuclear weapons was "evil" and "profoundly anti-God".
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 08:46 am
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/steve_bell/2006/12/05/bllcrtaa.gif

Perverted Ambition


Instead of spending billions Mr Blair
On ornamental symbols of your great power
I demand instead
That you use that money
To patch up the National Health service
Patch up Education
And patch up our conventional Army
Who have to beg and borrow
Ammunition and Equipment
FOR THEIR LIVES
While you stroke the new model Weapon
Of Mass Destruction
(US driven)
While you sit back
After killing
Three quarters of a million
Civilians
Should we really be willing
To put nukes in the hands of such
Perverted Ambition?


Endymion 2006
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 08:39 pm
http://www.michaelmoore.com/_images/splash/readitandweep.jpg

Read It And Weep

George's War ruins hundreds of thousands of lives and achieves nothing but chaos and hopelessness

Panel: Bush's Iraq policies have failed

http://www.michaelmoore.com/
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 08:49 pm
12 Days of Christmas



On the first day of Christmas
My country sent to me
Some Bromide for my cup o' tea

On the second day of Christmas
My country sent to me
Two latex gloves
And some Bromide for my cup o' tea

On the third day of Christmas
My country sent to me
Three caged pens
Two latex gloves
And some Bromide for my cup o' tea

On the fourth day of Christmas
My country sent to me
Four scrawny birds
Three caged pens
Two latex gloves
And some Bromide for my cup o' tea

On the fifth day of Christmas
My country sent to me
Five Mushroom Rings ….!
Four scrawny birds
Three caged pens
Two latex gloves
And some Bromide for my cup o' tea

On the sixth day of Christmas
My country sent to me
Six bombs a-laying
Five Mushroom Rings ….!
Four scrawny birds
Three caged pens
Two latex gloves
And some Bromide for my cup o' tea

On the seventh day of Christmas
My country sent to me
Seven cities frying
Six bombs a-laying
Five Mushroom Rings ….!
Four scrawny birds
Three caged pens
Two latex gloves
And some Bromide for my cup o' tea

On the eighth day of Christmas
My country sent to me
Eight wars a-milking
Seven cities frying
Six bombs a-laying
Five Mushroom Rings ….!
Four scrawny birds
Three caged pens
Two latex gloves
And some Bromide for my cup o' tea

On the ninth day of Christmas
My country sent to me
Nine lads-a-dying
Eight wars a-milking
Seven cities frying
Six bombs a-laying
Five Mushroom Rings ….!
Four scrawny birds
Three caged pens
Two latex gloves
And some Bromide for my cup o' tea

On the tenth day of Christmas
My country sent to me
Ten lords a-reaping
Nine lads-a-dying
Eight wars a-milking
Seven cities frying
Six bombs a-laying
Five Mushroom Rings ….!
Four scrawny birds
Three caged pens
Two latex gloves
And some Bromide for my cup o' tea

On the eleventh day of Christmas
My country sent to me
Eleven snipers sniping
Ten lords a-reaping
Nine lads-a-dying
Eight wars a-milking
Seven cities frying
Six bombs a-laying
Five Mushroom Rings ….!
Four scrawny birds
Three caged pens
Two latex gloves
And some Bromide for my cup o' tea

On the twelfth day of Christmas
My country sent to me
Twelve gunners gunning
Eleven snipers sniping
Ten lords a-reaping
Nine lads-a-dying
Eight wars a-milking
Seven cities frying
Six bombs a-laying
Five Mushroom Rings ….!
Four scrawny birds
Three caged pens
Two latex gloves
And some Bromide for my cup o' tea!




Endymion 2006
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 10:57 pm
December 6th, 2006

"This was the worst strategic mistake in the entire history of the United States." -- Al Gore
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 11:06 pm
I see it as very symbolic that water has just been discovered on the planet mars (bringer of war) - maybe it symbolises the dawning of aquarius

The cooling down of war

Let's hope so
Really must post something on my old symbolism thread about this
but time to sleep now

Peace,
Endy
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Reply Wed 13 Dec, 2006 09:25 am
Washington diary: The next president?
By Matt Frei
BBC News, Washington

One could be excused for thinking that a 45-year-old African-American with barely two years' experience in the US Senate and a name that evokes America's two most hated enemies wouldn't have an ice cream's chance in hell of winning the presidency.

But Barack Hussein Obama has proven once again that in American politics, truth is a lot stranger than fiction.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42345000/jpg/_42345903_wave_203ap.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6173373.stm

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42345000/jpg/_42345905_2004_203ap.jpg
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http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00239/p1-151206_239740b.jpg



Diplomat's suppressed document lays bare the lies behind Iraq war

By Colin Brown and Andy McSmith
Published: 15 December 2006
The Independent

The Government's case for going to war in Iraq has been torn apart by the publication of previously suppressed evidence that Tony Blair lied over Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction.

A devastating attack on Mr Blair's justification for military action by Carne Ross, Britain's key negotiator at the UN, has been kept under wraps until now because he was threatened with being charged with breaching the Official Secrets Act.

In the testimony revealed today Mr Ross, 40, who helped negotiate several UN security resolutions on Iraq, makes it clear that Mr Blair must have known Saddam Hussein possessed no weapons of mass destruction. He said that during his posting to the UN, "at no time did HMG [Her Majesty's Government] assess that Iraq's WMD (or any other capability) posed a threat to the UK or its interests."

Mr Ross revealed it was a commonly held view among British officials dealing with Iraq that any threat by Saddam Hussein had been "effectively contained".

He also reveals that British officials warned US diplomats that bringing down the Iraqi dictator would lead to the chaos the world has since witnessed. "I remember on several occasions the UK team stating this view in terms during our discussions with the US (who agreed)," he said.

"At the same time, we would frequently argue when the US raised the subject, that 'regime change' was inadvisable, primarily on the grounds that Iraq would collapse into chaos."

He claims "inertia" in the Foreign Office and the "inattention of key ministers" combined to stop the UK carrying out any co-ordinated and sustained attempt to address sanction-busting by Iraq, an approach which could have provided an alternative to war.

Mr Ross delivered the evidence to the Butler inquiry which investigated intelligence blunders in the run-up to the conflict.

The Foreign Office had attempted to prevent the evidence being made public, but it has now been published by the Commons Select Committee on Foreign Affairs after MPs sought assurances from the Foreign Office that it would not breach the Official Secrets Act.

It shows Mr Ross told the inquiry, chaired by Lord Butler, "there was no intelligence evidence of significant holdings of CW [chemical warfare], BW [biological warfare] or nuclear material" held by the Iraqi dictator before the invasion. "There was, moreover, no intelligence or assessment during my time in the job that Iraq had any intention to launch an attack against its neighbours or the UK or the US," he added.

Mr Ross's evidence directly challenges the assertions by the Prime Minster that the war was legally justified because Saddam possessed WMDs which could be "activated" within 45 minutes and posed a threat to British interests. These claims were also made in two dossiers, subsequently discredited, in spite of the advice by Mr Ross.

His hitherto secret evidence threatens to reopen the row over the legality of the conflict, under which Mr Blair has sought to draw a line as the internecine bloodshed in Iraq has worsened.

Mr Ross says he questioned colleagues at the Foreign Office and the Ministry of Defence working on Iraq and none said that any new evidence had emerged to change their assessment.

"What had changed was the Government's determination to present available evidence in a different light," he added.

Mr Ross said in late 2002 that he "discussed this at some length with David Kelly", the weapons expert who a year later committed suicide when he was named as the source of a BBC report saying Downing Street had "sexed up" the WMD claims in a dossier. The Butler inquiry cleared Mr Blair and Downing Street of "sexing up" the dossier, but the publication of the Carne Ross evidence will cast fresh doubts on its findings.

Mr Ross, 40, was a highly rated diplomat but he resigned because of his misgivings about the legality of the war. He still fears the threat of action under the Official Secrets Act.

"Mr Ross hasn't had any approach to tell him that he is still not liable to be prosecuted," said one ally. But he has told friends that he is "glad it is out in the open" and he told MPs it had been "on my conscience for years".

One member of the Foreign Affairs committee said: "There was blood on the carpet over this. I think it's pretty clear the Foreign Office used the Official Secrets Act to suppress this evidence, by hanging it like a Sword of Damacles over Mr Ross, but we have called their bluff."

Yesterday, Jack Straw, the Leader of the Commons who was Foreign Secretary during the war - Mr Ross's boss - announced the Commons will have a debate on the possible change of strategy heralded by the Iraqi Study Group report in the new year.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article2076137.ece
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