Old vs. New Testament?

Great question. Having been raised a Roman Catholic, I have little knowledge of the Bible: we were taught a mixture of the Church Fathers and, quite frankly, superstition in grade school.

I tend to think that New Testament compilers lived in a very different world than the folks who put together the Old. The New Testament reflects a great deal of influence from the cosmopolitan society of the Greeks, especially Greek ideas that came into the West. Furthermore, the compilers were heavily influenced by what has been called the historicizing tendency of the Romans -- as the Romans were not spiritual and were frankly overwhelmed by the great number of gods they gave space to in their cities as the result of their conquests, they tended to humanize the stories of those gods, making gods into men and women.

The Catholic Church adopted this elasticity of the Romans and attached stories of nymphs, pagan gods and goddesses (this time, Celtic and Germanic as well as Greek) to people the Church honored as saints. By the time the New Testament -- which could be called The Western Bible -- was written and compiled and frozen, the saints and their works and lives were firmly a part of religion.

Here is one place where you may begin to find answers: "Consequently the Law has become our tutor leading to Christ, that we might be declared righteous due to faith. 25 But now that the faith has arrived, we are no longer under a tutor." (Galatians 3:24.25)

Around 2,100 the old God was ousted from power in a major election. Everyone was shocked as he had run the universe with an iron hand for billions of years. The New God promised to be a "kinder, gentler" God.

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No difference. It is One and the same God in both Old and New Testaments.

plainoldme had the best point i think, its more of a perspective of times thing probably.

Do you have thing to susport your claim real life?

Well, I won't post a dissertation on the whole Bible.

If you have a specific instance of what you think shows God different in the New Testament than in the Old, we can discuss.

God sent His son into the world so that mankind could be saved. That is the beginning of the difference.

That was God's plan from eternity past, so really no difference. You simply begin to see the result in the New Testament, but God didn't change.

God spoke threw fire and bushes and new testament never did that. God sent a huge flood to destroy the earth, and he seamed to loudly be everywhere his ppl where, while new testament he was more there in spirit without actually doing anything. God seamed more vengful in the old testament and more merciful in the new.......

Have you ever read the Book of Revelation?

36"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" 37Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'[c] 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

At Deuteronomy 20:10 the god decrees:

"When you march up to attack a city, first offer terms of peace.
If it agrees to your terms of peace and opens its gates to you,
all the people to be found in it shall serve you in forced labor.
But if it refuses to make peace with you and instead offers you
battle, lay siege to it, and when the Lord, your God, delivers it
into your hand, put every male in it to the sword, but the women
and children and livestock and all else in it that is worth
plunder you may take as your booty and you may use this plunder
of your enemies which the Lord, your God, has given you."


Obviously New Testament we should all care for eachother, while on the old testament, kill everyone if they are bad, and ensalve everyone who is good.

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Who says they're different?

I do

Translation, please.

Does he have anything that could prove him right, does he have any evidence to prove god is the same in the old testament and the new testament?

The ancient Hebrews understood God as author and creator of all that exists in the Universe. Their very existence from their waking, daily routine, the fabric of their clothes, the food they ate, the work they did, and religious exercises was all in obedience to a Deity they perceived to be their Creator, Judge, and Redeemer. Their existence was lived according to a set of rules and laws that resulted in obedience to Yahweh (God) whose very righteousness required anger and demanded retribution when His Law was violated.

Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, Immanuel, "God with us", confirmed the God of the Old Testament but illustrated how the ancient understanding was incomplete and incorrect. God was not a God of rules and rituals to be enforced, but was a God of love and compassion for His creation. He destined humankind to be a force for light and good in the world, far more than just going through the motions to ensure one's own approval and salvation.

Everybody didn't get it of course, thus we have many stupidities and atrocities committed in the name of Christ. The Church has put many of its worst sins (the Crusades, the Inquisition, witch burnings, etc.) behind it, but still doesn't always get it right. But through it all, the Church has been much more a force for good than it has been a force for evil and will continue to be so.

And that is the difference between the God of righteousness and wrath of the Old Testament and the God of righteousness and love of the New Testament. And it is a difference in what the people of the Old and New understood their relationship to God to be.

(The Gospel according to Foxfyre.)

He was quoting from the Old Testament.

wow, your right....

So the things about not killing and stealing are mostly suggestions. I see.