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The Cosmos, is it really there?

 
 
RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 09:41 pm
I opened the great spiral. It lead to a room that lead to another, I heard time like a clock ticking. I moved down a hallway and opened an arbitrary door, the door opened like glue. I was in a womb and then a tomb trying to move out and away like pi. Like I was being observed, through the eyes of the third camera. Smoothed by a feeling of recollection I reflected inward. I spoke... out came spirals and strings and numbers.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 11:26 pm
I felt like that when I sobered up. I don't get high anymore 'cause of it.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 12:21 am
neologist wrote:
I felt like that when I sobered up. I don't get high anymore 'cause of it.


Ephesians 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,

2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; 3 Endeavouring to keep the unity [oneness] of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. 7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ. 8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. 9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: 16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 03:47 am
And this has what to do with the thread topic?
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 04:14 am
motivation
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 11:50 am
Brandon9000 wrote:
And this has what to do with the thread topic?


Numbers. (numerology)

http://philologos.org/__eb-nis/

(If I give out all of my secret knowledge, you will have no need for me any longer) Smile
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 11:57 am
Cyracuz wrote:
motivation


I like you. Smile
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 11:57 pm
"He telleth the number of the stars" (Psa 147:4).

He "bringeth out their host by number" (Isa 40:26).

"For now thou numberest my steps" (Job 14:16)

"He weigheth the waters by measure" (Job 28:25).

"God hath numbered thy kingdom" (Dan 5:26)

"But the very hairs of your head are numbered" (Mt 10:30)
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jul, 2006 11:43 pm
Life is made of numbers. Every phenomenon can be represented by numerical expressions.

Numbers comprised of different patterns and formula (intelligence).

These different patterns of math, structure and architecture come together to form all of the various physical and biological structures and functions.

Like the stomach organ being a long "cylinder" and the brain a simple vortex of short and long term memories. The heart is a compression device and fingers are sensory detection devices. Muscles are a lever, bones are a fulcrum. All mathematically explained by exertion and mass.

Senses are based on touch and linear serial or parallel impulses that are detected by the physical functions of the brain. The brain is working in tandem with the immune system which is like Fibonacci in relation to pi.

DNA is a double helix that divides and combines to form new siblings of itself. The eyes are light sensors that provide optical observation to the reasoning and subconscious parts of the brain.

Each and every physical and biological property can be explained mathematically.

Because it is all mathematical it can evolve, but what generates such mathematical physical sub structures and imposes them upon this universe so dynamically?

Such things like gravity and entropy and even nuclear influences are forces that have forged the mathematical patterns and shapes of nature. Combustion along with vast diversity free from pure chaos. Able to be live unobstructed to reach levels of fine detail, like fractals going from elemental to the biological living.

Whole numbers, prime numbers, series of numbers, groups of similar numbers, sets, decimals, subtraction, addition, multiplication and division. Zero, fractions and negative numbers, always in three dimensions...

Shapes and patterns within more shapes and patterns, complexity upon more complexity and embroidered within the fabric of the physical world. Thus even every "word" spoken is numerically significant because it proceeds from many numerical expressions of existence.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jul, 2006 02:03 am
Like intelligence can be artificial, can the universe be artificial?

A cascade of numbers, a veil that conceals the master mathematician?

An array of fifty-two cards of four suits from aces to kings, a grand illusion.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jul, 2006 11:51 am
Oh, no, now were on "The Matrix" shyte. It's science fiction
but in your case it's science friction.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jul, 2006 12:05 pm
Lightwizard wrote:
Oh, no, now were on "The Matrix" shyte. It's science fiction
but in your case it's science friction.


In my search for all the math jargon I know, how could I have left out the humble "matrix"? Thanks LW Laughing

I am going to use this cosmos thread to post some of my own science, evolution and Noah's ark type ramblings, Genesis etc. Feel free to do the same.

Sort of a science outlet with a religious twist. Is evolution an illusion too?

I get so many thoughts on the subject sometimes I think I am going to implode. Shocked

Like, I think Noah himself saw that evolution did not explain completely the origin of species. This was why they used a natural disaster to explain why animals humans are so disconnected from their origins. Considering these very same questions concerning evolution exist today only cement the Noah story in history.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jul, 2006 12:13 pm
If you think everything is an illusion (a la transendentalism or other such philosophical pot boiling), I'd seek serious professional help. You're losing it. Sorry. Very Happy

Darwin came many, many years after Noah. There was no scientific study or theory of evolution in his time. Get serious, if that's possible.

"Philosophy consists very largely of one philosopher arguing that all others are jackasses. He usually proves it, and I should add that he also usually proves that he is one himself."

H. L. Mencken
(1880 - 1956)
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jul, 2006 12:23 pm
Yes, what about the beauty parlour that advertised for a cosmologist?

Consider Cyracuz' reminder that the term, cosmos, refers to "everything that is." With that definition our problem of the existence of the Cosmos dissolves. Right now I'm looking at a computer screen, a portion of the Cosmos.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jul, 2006 01:25 pm
As long as you don't put on make-up before cruising hyperspace. Very Happy
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jul, 2006 03:19 pm
Wiz, what have you got against travelling in style?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jul, 2006 04:47 pm
JLNobody wrote:
Yes, what about the beauty parlour that advertised for a cosmologist?

Consider Cyracuz' reminder that the term, cosmos, refers to "everything that is." With that definition our problem of the existence of the Cosmos dissolves. Right now I'm looking at a computer screen, a portion of the Cosmos.


All that is is from a certain standpoint. Smile

There is dark energy that is not visible... So everything that is is only part of all that is.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jul, 2006 04:56 pm
Rex, of course everything is from a certain standpoint. Every thought and utterance reflects a perspective. Wouldn't you agree that dark energy is part of all there is even if it is invisible? I can't imagine equating invisibility with non-existence. Smile
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jul, 2006 05:12 pm
JLNobody wrote:
Rex, of course everything is from a certain standpoint. Every thought and utterance reflects a perspective. Wouldn't you agree that dark energy is part of all there is even if it is invisible? I can't imagine equating invisibility with non-existence. Smile


Invisible energy is alternative existence.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jul, 2006 05:23 pm
O.K., then "existence" consists of TWO dimensions that make up a more complex whole: a duality that is one. My perspective.

By the way, something that does not exist cannot be invisible (there is nothing to not be seen). But something that is invisible can exist (it may be too small to see or beyond the senses of a blind person).
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