snood wrote:Lash wrote:Not as low and nasty as you do.
My attempts to address the topic, and your inability to handle disagreement are wall to wall in here.
You initiate the personal, and cruise along happily saying the lowest crap imaginable, and then you can't handle when it's returned. I've never seen a grown man say such vicious things, and then whine when it comes back.
I suggest you think about it before you start it.
My references are no worse than yours. They just bother you more.
You're delusional lady. I said to you on this thread "you need to get laid". You took that and ran into taunting me with alcohol, saying I beat my woman, and other choice stuff about a blowup doll. If you think "you need to get laid" is as vicious as what you've said on this thread, you're out of touch with reality.
For you, the subject matter is off limits. You are not welcomed to remark about my personal life, in your crass terms or in any other form. If you choose to--
expect the same. You don't fool anyone--your statements intentionally mock a death; therefore,
nothing is off limits to me.
Have you noticed how many people you fight with? How many fights have you had this week?
How many people have told you you have an anger problem...? A personality problem? Maybe his will help:
Dry Drunk Syndrome
From Buddy T,
Your Guide to Alcoholism / Substance Abuse.
Not Drinking, But Not 'Of Sober Mind' Either
Unfortunately when many former drinkers go through the grieving process over the loss of their old friend, the bottle, some never get past the anger stage.
It is a very real loss. The drink has been their friend for many years and one they could count on. When the whole world turned against them, the bottle never let them down. It was always there ready for the good times, the celebrations, the parties, as well as the sad, mad, and lonely times, too.
Finally their old friend let them down... they got in trouble with the law, lost a job or career, almost lost their family, or the doctors told them they had to stop drinking... whatever the reason, the circumstances of their life brought them to the point where they made a decision to say "so long" to the bottle.
Whether they realized it or not, they began the stages of grieving -- denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance -- the same stages most people go through when they have a great loss in their lives or have been told they have a terminal illness.
First comes the denial -- it's really not that big a deal, I've always said I could quit anytime -- and then the anger and depression when they realize just how much that had come to depend on their old friend alcohol.
Many make it through the process to the final stage -- accepting the loss, learning and growing through the experience, and moving on.
Some never make it.
It's sad to see them, sometimes many years later, still stuck in their anger, bitterness, and resentment at having to make the change in their lives. They haven't had a drink in years, but they have also never had a "sober" day.
You even see them in the 12-step rooms... been in the program for years and years and their lives seem to be a constant unmanageable struggle. All those years and they have no more of a spiritual awakening than they did the first time they walked into the room.
"Dry Drunk" has been described as "A condition of returning to one's old alcoholic thinking and behavior without actually having taken a drink." Or as one wise old drunk put it, if a horse thief goes into A.A. what you can end up with is a sober horse thief. Or a personal favorite: you can take the rum out of the fruit cake, but you've still got a fruit cake!
Those who quit drinking but are still angry about it, wind up living miserable lives and usually make everyone else around them miserable too. If it has been said once in an Al-Anon meeting, it has been whispered thousands of times, "I almost wish he would go back to drinking."
Okay, I Don't Like It, Now What?
The simple answer to that question is to find something that you do like, but that is not always as easy as it sounds.
There is a theory that in order to fully recover from the effects of alcoholism, the alcoholic must replace the obsessive behaviors in his life with their spiritual opposites.
Frankly, there are those who believe that without such spiritual help from a power greater than themselves, true recovery is impossible.
(*I see why you are desperately clinging to religion.)
The Alcoholics Anonymous program has championed this theory for many years to millions of "hopeless drunks" who are now living happy and sober lives. It's hard to argue with that record of success.
But beyond the spiritual side of recovery, there are other steps that can be taken to help make life fun again, without alcohol:
Develop a hobby. Take up gardening, start or expand a collection, build something, go fishing, or learn how to develop your own web pages! Try to find some activity to fill those leisure hours that you used to spend drinking.
Get healthy. All those years of drinking probably took some toll on your physical health. Join the YMCA, take up an exercise program or jogging, or play a sport. Get on some kind of regular (daily) improvement routine.
Improve your mind. It's never too late to learn new things. Get a library card, take a continuing education class, improve your job skills, or surf the 'Net.
Spend time with your family. Maybe you can't replace all those times that you neglected your wife and children while you were in the barrooms, but you can make a new start. Take your wife out to her favorite place, take the kids or grandchildren to the park, or start a project in which the entire family can participate.
Life doesn't have to be a miserable experience just because you quit drinking. There's a whole world out there for you to explore and learn about.
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Ask yourself why you're unable to speak rationally to a person with a different opinion without being personally abusive to them. Don't you think it's time to get on with the grieving process related to your alcoholism? And, maybe the first step should be admitting you've been drinking. I noticed the 14 year/ 16 year discrepancy you posted.
It would improve your personality drastically.
