hitler censored

I heard that explanation too, on Boston radio. They seem to be afraid of giving ideas ot people, referred to as "skin heads".

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I've read that this mini-serie could help likening the climate in America in advance of the invasion of Iraq to the climate in pre-war Germany that allowed the rise of the Third Reich.
Might be a reason, too.

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The CBS affiliate in Corpus Christi, Texas, has opted not to air a two-part miniseries dramatizing the young life of Nazi leader Adolf Hitler.

Dale Remy, general manager of KZTV Channel 10, said he was concerned that the film could give harmful ideas to white supremacists and disturbed young people.

"The Nazi concept, if you will, is still very real, and I think anything we do to give that particular thinking a venue, a format, is a mistake," Remy said. "More people that are already on the fence on this and have issues might find something in this character to identify with, and that bothers me tremendously."

The company that owns KZTV has a second CBS affiliate in Laredo, Texas, that has also chosen not to air "Hitler: the Rise of Evil." CBS spokesman Chris Ender said that of the more than 200 CBS affiliates in the country, he knew of no others that have declined to show the film. http://www.naplesnews.com/03/05/neapolitan/d907796a.htm

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Corpus Christi has always been quick to censor. I recall that a letter appeared in the C.C. Caller/Times complaining about the Coasters' hit song, "Little Egypt." I never heard the tune on CC radio again. Same thing with a few other songs. I have not lived in that city in over 25 years. From the look of it it has not changed.
As to the idea of Hitler being censored, it's true a few rotten apples will always drop off, but in almost every case they were going to fall anyway.

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If the neo-nazis are going to get any ideas, it will be because they can go to any public library or surf the net or buy books highlighting every aspect of Hitler and Nazi philosophy. I have a difficult time believing that one mini-series about his life will promote nazi-ism any more than what's already available.

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agreed, liberty.

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Edgarblythe wrote:

the reason given was the ideas and emotions behind this madness could be contageous.

There is some rationale in this. In 1973 the Soviet television broadcasted a 12-parts film about some imaginary Soviet intelligence officer that managed to penetrate to the 6th department of RSHA (counterespionage service) reporting directly to SS-Brigadenführer Walter von Schellenberg. Such persons as Hitler, Himmler, Bohrmann, Kaltenbrunner, Müller, and some other high-ranked Nazis appeared as characters of the movie. Since KGB was the sponsor of the film (it was supposed to glorify their achievements during the WWII), the best Soviet actors were participating in it, the details of SS uniform, German cars of '40s and other "cute" gadgets were scrupulously re-created, and this had an unexpected effect on the teenagers. They were fascinated by the esthetic side of Nazi Germany, by its imperial glamor and started a role-playing game "The Third Reich" (while being absolutely unaware about the very basics of Nazism). When the first eagle-and-swastika graffiti appeared in some of the major cities of the USSR, the movie was prohibited and it did not appear on the screens for about 15 years (until the so-called "glasnost" period): there was a zero tolerance toward anything pertaining to NSDAP in the USSR...

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steissd wrote:

When the first eagle-and-swastika graffiti appeared in some of the major cities of the USSR, the movie was prohibited and it did not appear on the screens for about 15 years (until the so-called "glasnost" period): there was a zero tolerance toward anything pertaining to NSDAP in the USSR...

Now it's allowed to be seen, yet Russia (as flawed as it may be) is not under Nazi rule as a result of the freedom to view the film. Your example could even be used to validate the theory that freedom and non-censorship help prevent the spread of facist beliefs, because there is always an opposing belief being offered in return. In soviet Russia, there was only one opposing belief, and that was the repression of freedom to explore different political ideologies.

Freedom can be scary because crazy beliefs like Nazi-ism are not censored and are not punishable by law, but it's more important to overcome those fears and to learn about those scary beliefs so we can never allow it to happen again.

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Well, I heard that there are some democratic countries where propaganda of Nazism is a criminal offense. If I am not mistaken, Germany is one of such countries, and this does not make it less democratic and liberal country than any other one.

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Actually, I wonder, if a film about Hitler could be "propaganda of Nazism".

Besides, steissd, the German Criminal Code defines the criminal offense as follows:

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Section 86 Dissemination of Means of Propaganda of Unconstitutional Organizations
(1) Whoever domestically disseminates or produces, stocks, imports or exports or makes publicly accessible through data storage media for dissemination domestically or abroad, means of propaganda:

1. of a party which has been declared to be unconstitutional by the Federal Constitutional Court or a party or organization, as to which it has been determined, no longer subject to appeal, that it is a substitute organization of such a party;

2. of an organization, which has been banned, no longer subject to appeal, because it is directed against the constitutional order or against the idea of international understanding, or as to which it has been determined, no longer subject to appeal, that it is a substitute organization of such a banned organization;

3. of a government, organization or institution outside of the territorial area of application of this law which is active in pursuing the objectives of one of the parties or organizations indicated in numbers 1 and 2; or

4. means of propaganda, the contents of which are intended to further the aims of a former National Socialist organization,

shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine.

(2) Means of propaganda within the meaning of subsection (1) shall only be those writings (Section 11 subsection (3)) the content of which is directed against the free, democratic constitutional order or the idea of international understanding.

(3) Subsection (1) shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to further civil enlightenment, to avert unconstitutional aims, to promote art or science, research or teaching, reporting about current historical events or similar purposes.

(4) If guilt is slight, the court may refrain from imposition of punishment pursuant to this provision.

Section 86a Use of Symbols of Unconstitutional Organizations
(1) Whoever:

1. domestically distributes or publicly uses, in a meeting or in writings (Section 11 subsection (3)) disseminated by him, symbols of one of the parties or organizations indicated in Section 86 subsection (1), nos. 1, 2 and 4; or

2. produces, stocks, imports or exports objects which depict or contain such symbols for distribution or use domestically or abroad, in the manner indicated in number 1,

shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine.

(2) Symbols, within the meaning of subsection (1), shall be, in particular, flags, insignia, uniforms, slogans and forms of greeting. Symbols which are so similar as to be mistaken for those named in sentence 1 shall be deemed to be equivalent thereto.

(3) Section 86 subsections (3) and (4), shall apply accordingly.

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Well, this is what I mean: Nazi propaganda is prohibited in Germany.

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Whoever domestically disseminates or produces, stocks, imports or exports or makes publicly accessible through data storage media for dissemination domestically or abroad, means of propaganda: [...] the contents of which are intended to further the aims of a former National Socialist organization,
shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine.

. And freedom of speech is not being taken into consideration in this aprticular case; but this does not make FRG a non-democratic country.

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Only ideas censored in the USA seem to be sexual ones. Other ideas are smothered by political means and media coercion.

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Im amazed that, by exercising content control on its audience, Corpus Christi is saying, in effect, Our viewers are not smart enough to make the critical evaluation about this miniseries and cannot derive any value from the information provided to them. Theyll probably just get all likkered up and kick holes in their trailers.

I hear that Lester Mounvez , when asked about the miniseries said. "we're proud of Hitler".
Walter, I think the German people "get it" , Im amazed that, in order to prevent future Hitlers theyve actually incorporated those lines in the criminal code. Of course, until Kennedy, there was no law that strictly forbad assassination of the US president.

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I lived in Corpus Christi from age 14 to 22 and a few times thereafter. It is a very controling element running the place. The freer souls are apolitical, from what I observed.

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