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OBSERVATIONS OF EVOLUTION

 
 
Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 03:57 pm
CREDIT TO DGHS48
for his fruitful reseach in this:

About the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution,
Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh,
had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a
permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up
until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts
from the public treasury.
From that moment on, the majority always votes for the
candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with
the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy,
which is always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history,
has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always
progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage "

Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul,
Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000
Presidential election:
1. Population of counties won by: Gore: 127 million;
Bush: 143 million;
2. Square miles of land won
by: Gore: 580,000;
Bush: 2,427,000;
3. States won by:
Gore: 19
Bush: 29
4. Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by Gore: 13.2
Bush: 2.1

Professor Olson adds:
"In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land
owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country.

Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements
living off government welfare."

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between
the "complacency & apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of
democracy, with some 40 percent of the nation's population already
having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.

Pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake,
knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 04:16 pm
How come this ain't in the Humor forum . . .

. . . oh . . . you're like, serious, huh?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 04:20 pm
MULTIPLE CHUCKLES
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 04:23 pm
Holy crap, David. You haven't gotten one iota smarter since the Abuzz days.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 04:26 pm
Republicans = passion
Democrats = apathy


Who knew it was all so simple?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 04:27 pm
There is somethin' simple-minded goin' on here, although it may not be immediately evident from whence . . .
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 04:38 pm
Chumly wrote:
Republicans = passion
Democrats = apathy


Who knew it was all so simple?


We have a leftist Democrat running for governor
here in NY; talks about " bringing passion " back to Albany.

That is SCARY.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 04:44 pm
You figure he plans to have Albany Sex Toy Parties?
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jespah
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 08:15 pm
Quote:
... 2. Square miles of land won
by: Gore: 580,000;
Bush: 2,427,000 ...


When acres begin voting, this will be of interest. Good thing soil is disenfranchised. Smile
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 16 Apr, 2006 12:23 am
Chumly wrote:
You figure he plans to have Albany Sex Toy Parties?


I figure he plans to screw us out of our FREEDOM,
in the name of an artificially contrived equality.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Sun 16 Apr, 2006 01:14 am
You mean by selling sex toys to lesbians at discount prices?
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yitwail
 
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Reply Sun 16 Apr, 2006 01:32 am
Re: OBSERVATIONS OF EVOLUTION
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Professor Olson adds:
"In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land
owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country.

Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements
living off government welfare."


i'd like to see what data Professor Olson used to form these conclusions. my data says the opposite:

Quote:


Source
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xingu
 
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Reply Sun 16 Apr, 2006 06:27 am
Here's some more information on this stuff.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/tyler.asp

If the last two elections tell us anything its how incredibility ignorant the American public is. You can see by the latest polls how many Bush voters now regret voting for him.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 16 Apr, 2006 07:03 am
I remember that in the 2000 elections a number of National Parks were claimed for Bush. All the moose of Baxter State Park, if they could vote, would have voted for Bush.
The point really is. What do those same folks who voted for him in 2000, have to say today?
Gore, as I recall, conceded the election like a true gentleman, even though in a strict democracy with one person, one vote, he would have won and possibly spared us from all our present trevails. No, lets forget 2000 (and the ensuing dark years of Bush) and plan for some major modifications of government, like

1 returning our international respect

2stopping the huge "money wounds" that the present admin is fond of causing

3Stop the growing inequity between the trends of the "rich getting richer and the ranks of the poor swelling"
4bring back some honesty in government and

5 remove the plutocrats
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yitwail
 
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Reply Sun 16 Apr, 2006 07:34 am
xingu wrote:
Here's some more information on this stuff.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/tyler.asp

If the last two elections tell us anything its how incredibility ignorant the American public is. You can see by the latest polls how many Bush voters now regret voting for him.


cool! Cool
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Sun 16 Apr, 2006 07:44 am
Quote:

I remember that in the 2000 elections a number of National Parks were claimed for Bush. All the moose of Baxter State Park, if they could vote, would have voted for Bush.


I would expect that game animals would be strongly Democratic. I understand they strongly favor gun control.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 16 Apr, 2006 07:49 am
well, if you look at the "red/blue" areas, all the state and national parks were claimed red.
Anyway, nobody can really count on support from the moose bloc. They are a particularly singular group.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 16 Apr, 2006 07:49 am
xingu wrote:
Here's some more information on this stuff.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/tyler.asp

If the last two elections tell us anything its how incredibility ignorant the American public is.
You can see by the latest polls how many Bush voters now regret voting for him.

It is not that we were * IGNORANT. *
It is that we did not share your values when we voted
David.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 16 Apr, 2006 07:53 am
PS, I feel that I was suckered into this thread by a cheap title that was planned to draw in the evolution bloc.

OM sig--do you continue your support of the present administration?
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yitwail
 
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Reply Sun 16 Apr, 2006 08:05 am
ebrown_p wrote:
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I would expect that game animals would be strongly Democratic. I understand they strongly favor gun control.


elk must be contrarians, then. when i googled <bpoe republican>, i got a lot more hits than when i googled <bpoe democratic>. Confused
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