Why are you religious? Please give your reasons.

gus wrote:

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I looked around the church -- old people, people with dementia in their eyes -- and I asked myself why I was in this situation. What did I do wrong to suffer at such a young age?

I'd like to make that my new sig line.

Beautifully said .

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It was a lovely post, all together, sad as the content may be.

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Yes, a genuine piece of literature, and from the swamp. Wow!

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JLNobody wrote:

O.K., but asking for "reasons" does suggest to me a request for the basis for a choice.
To me "choice" suggests a reason regarding a goal that PULLS one from the anticipated future--if I do this I will gain this or avoid that.
A "cause", by contrast, implies a PUSH from the past--an antecedent condition or force that impels a present condition, e.g., religious belief or membership.

I did look up "reason" before I started: "an underlying fact or cause" , "the basis or motive for an action" so I figured cause was covered too.

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I guess my religion would be a faith in the future success of man to become godlike.

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I'm not religious, because I see no real point to it other than fear of death - I don't fear death.

I know that wasn't the question exactly, but I guess I'm more of one to ASK that very question than answer it.

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So I can paraphrase your question, Chumly, as "Please give your causes?" Doesn't sound right to me.

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I see what you mean, nevertheless

Chumly wrote:

Why are you religious? Please give your reasons.

It seems to me you could say "my reason for being religious is because my family insisted I go to church" or "my reason for being religious is because I am a traditional Jew" or "my reason for being religious is because I have always felt there must be something more than just the physical" or "my reason for being religious is because it has never occurred to me to not be religious" or "my reason for being religious is because it just feels right" or "my reason for being religious is because my best friend was in school and I went along".

Where is the overt conscious decision you suggest is inherent in my question if it is answered in that fashion?

It gets funner:

1) What causes the sun's heat?
2) What are the reasons for the sun's heat?
3) What causes cats to purr?
4) What are the reasons cats purr?

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Xingu.. Every people is free. Because you see violent is everywhere.. God doesn't like violent or etc... He has power for everything but he doen't prevent lots of thing....Also christian's wrongs and also Muslim's wrongs.. But believe me , He supports who works. Because gave freewill to last day.

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Re: Why are you religious? Please give your reasons.

Chumly wrote:

Why are you religious? Please give your reasons.

There are two rules:
1) Don't say because the Bible or Torah or Koran etc tells you so.
2) Scriptural quotations longer than two sentences punishable by 20 lashings (this mean you kevnmoon!)

Because I am

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I'm born in a part of the country which is Catholic since more than 1200 years and in a family which is Catholic now since nearly 750 years - I didn't find a real reason to change this tradition, but don't consider me religious.

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Hinteler's reason is the reason most people are in the religion they're in; they're born in it. It's the family religion.

In my wife's family they're all Catholic because they were born and raised in a Catholic family. There's one nun and one priest in the family.

Family and local culture is one of the main reasons people are of the religion they're in. Think of how many Muslims are Muslims because of where they were born and the culture they grew up in.

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Doktor S wrote:

neologist wrote:
Doktor S wrote:
Yes, choice.
The experience of choice.
That you can and wil ultimately only choose one way does not preclude the experience itself
Was it a choice freely made?

Freedom too is an illusion from where I sit. Yet perhaps the most important illusion we have.

So YOU made the choice, but it was really an illusion?

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Hi Neo.
'Choice' is, from where I sit, an experience. An experience caused by the culmination of an unknown amount of deterministic factors.
As we can only experience 'things' sequentially, we do not 'know' what we will do all the time. (some of the time we have enough information to predict 'what we would do' but not always)
However, how we perceive and how things are are not mutually exclusive.
We experience 'choice' as the end result of a web of causal events. These events themselves, the results of other series' of causal events.
I don't 'make' a choice, I am a conduit for the experience of choice.
The outcome to each percieved 'choice' is inevitable as it is predictable. (given the right technology and information)

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Alot of people were born into a belief, but don't most people question it at some point in their life?

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Lash wrote:

Alot of people were born into a belief, but don't most people question it at some point in their life?

Those that can generally do.
But some people are really stupid, and even more gullible.
I'd imagine those people die with unquestioned faith.

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Well, that's one way to put it.

lol

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Doktor S wrote:

Hi Neo.
'Choice' is, from where I sit, an experience. An experience caused by the culmination of an unknown amount of deterministic factors.
As we can only experience 'things' sequentially, we do not 'know' what we will do all the time. (some of the time we have enough information to predict 'what we would do' but not always)
However, how we perceive and how things are are not mutually exclusive.
We experience 'choice' as the end result of a web of causal events. These events themselves, the results of other series' of causal events.
I don't 'make' a choice, I am a conduit for the experience of choice.
The outcome to each percieved 'choice' is inevitable as it is predictable. (given the right technology and information)

That you may have reasons for making a choice is not proof that the choice was inevitable.

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yes, I think that what is being said here is the case. Most people do not adopt their relilgion; they are adopted by the religion of their parents or the dominant religion of their ethnic community. Some may change but most do not.

"Born again" Christian fundamentalist religiousity is essentially a "change your religion", "renew your life", conversion phenomenon, which helps to account for its fervor. Old traditional religions seem to be more staid. The major religions have theologians of high scholarship and intelligence; this is not the case for Christian fundamentalist denominations; They are populists movements in which the highest level of thinking is the same as that of the popular level. This is not the case with the two-tiered major religions of Judaism, Catholicism, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Islam where there exist levels of thought not intellectually or spiritually accessible by the masses. But these religions also have their popular levels which are no less ridden with simplicity and superstition than seen in Christian fundamentalism.

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