H2O MAN
 
  1  
Wed 9 Jul, 2008 10:10 am
okie wrote:
...usually associated with the rich and arrogant...

Dosing with tobacco products in any form is always associated with stupid and ignorant people representing all socioeconomic profiles.




Cycloptichorn wrote:
I can tell ya - it isn't easy to quit, and certainly not during a pressure situation...


Pressure situations!

Does Obama have any clue what kind of pressure a president usually faces every single day?
Rolling Eyes Maybe Obama should consider a job with less pressure . . .
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okie
 
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Wed 9 Jul, 2008 10:12 am
Now Obama is claiming every American should learn to speak Spanish, that it is embarrassing we don't speak a second language! Does he speak Spanish, just a question?

This man is looking worse all the time. Listen to him. He is fumbling big time. And some people claim he is a good speaker! Incredible.

What has he ever done besides spend over a 100 days in Congress when he began running for president? Credentials: I guess organizing a community, whatever that is? My community is already organized, so we have no need for his skills, whatever they are, which are still a mystery.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Wed 9 Jul, 2008 10:28 am
okie wrote:
Now Obama is claiming every American should learn to speak Spanish, that it is embarrassing we don't speak a second language! Does he speak Spanish, just a question?

This man is looking worse all the time. Listen to him. He is fumbling big time. And some people claim he is a good speaker! Incredible.

What has he ever done besides spend over a 100 days in Congress when he began running for president? Credentials: I guess organizing a community, whatever that is? My community is already organized, so we have no need for his skills, whatever they are, which are still a mystery.


Fumbling on what? Every American SHOULD learn another language, be it Spanish or something else. Tell me, Okie, what is the downside to this?

Cycloptichorn
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 9 Jul, 2008 10:35 am
While in Central Asia a couple of months ago, we met many youngsters who spoke several languages - even more than a few who spoke at least six.

We are not only ignorant in geography but also in the language arts that is necessary to understand the many cultures of this world; all necessary in a world economic environment.
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Diest TKO
 
  1  
Wed 9 Jul, 2008 10:36 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
okie wrote:
Now Obama is claiming every American should learn to speak Spanish, that it is embarrassing we don't speak a second language! Does he speak Spanish, just a question?

This man is looking worse all the time. Listen to him. He is fumbling big time. And some people claim he is a good speaker! Incredible.

What has he ever done besides spend over a 100 days in Congress when he began running for president? Credentials: I guess organizing a community, whatever that is? My community is already organized, so we have no need for his skills, whatever they are, which are still a mystery.


Fumbling on what? Every American SHOULD learn another language, be it Spanish or something else. Tell me, Okie, what is the downside to this?

Cycloptichorn

Because then our children will be conditioned to be "internationalists" and then their sense of patriotism will dwindel making the USA more vulnerable for attack like France was in WWII. Rolling Eyes

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okie
 
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Wed 9 Jul, 2008 10:36 am
Now Obama was running a lottery for campaign contributors that contribute more than a certain amount can get their name in a drawing to win a better seat and meet Obama back stage.

Do these people have any sense?
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okie
 
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Wed 9 Jul, 2008 10:37 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
okie wrote:
Now Obama is claiming every American should learn to speak Spanish, that it is embarrassing we don't speak a second language! Does he speak Spanish, just a question?

This man is looking worse all the time. Listen to him. He is fumbling big time. And some people claim he is a good speaker! Incredible.

What has he ever done besides spend over a 100 days in Congress when he began running for president? Credentials: I guess organizing a community, whatever that is? My community is already organized, so we have no need for his skills, whatever they are, which are still a mystery.


Fumbling on what? Every American SHOULD learn another language, be it Spanish or something else. Tell me, Okie, what is the downside to this?

Cycloptichorn

The downside is Obama is lecturing us to speak Spanish when he can't. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 9 Jul, 2008 10:40 am
okie wrote:
Now Obama was running a lottery for campaign contributors that contribute more than a certain amount can get their name in a drawing to win a better seat and meet Obama back stage.

Do these people have any sense?


okie, You seem to be ignorant of the human desire to meet the famous and infamous - and pay for the privilege. A Chinese businessman just paid 2.3 million to have lunch with Warren Buffett.
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okie
 
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Wed 9 Jul, 2008 10:41 am
But it may be illegal, ci, just a small problem.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Wed 9 Jul, 2008 10:42 am
okie wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
okie wrote:
Now Obama is claiming every American should learn to speak Spanish, that it is embarrassing we don't speak a second language! Does he speak Spanish, just a question?

This man is looking worse all the time. Listen to him. He is fumbling big time. And some people claim he is a good speaker! Incredible.

What has he ever done besides spend over a 100 days in Congress when he began running for president? Credentials: I guess organizing a community, whatever that is? My community is already organized, so we have no need for his skills, whatever they are, which are still a mystery.


Fumbling on what? Every American SHOULD learn another language, be it Spanish or something else. Tell me, Okie, what is the downside to this?

Cycloptichorn

The downside is Obama is lecturing us to speak Spanish when he can't. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.


http://www.seattlepoliticore.org/2008/05/28/un-mensaje-de-barack-obama/

Did he just practice for this, or does he speak it more fluently? I don't know, but his accent is good.

This took me about, oh, three seconds to find on Google. Try doing at least a tiny bit of research before spouting your opinions off, Okie, and you'll do better.

Cycloptichorn
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okie
 
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Wed 9 Jul, 2008 10:45 am
Probably from a teleprompter, cyclops, and coaching.

Paint me skeptical, and you would be correct.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Wed 9 Jul, 2008 10:47 am
okie wrote:
Probably from a teleprompter, cyclops.

Paint me skeptical, and you would be correct.


With our without a teleprompter, he speaks it better then your ass does.

You will note that Obama has called for America's kids to be learning a foreign language as part of their education. Not necessarily American adults, who left formal education long ago. So your original argument doesn't really hold much water at all, actually.

You're really reaching these days... I can't help but think that this is b/c, even after all the 'mistakes' you like to point out, Obama seems to do better and better in the polls every day. It must be frustrating for ya.

Cycloptichorn
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okie
 
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Wed 9 Jul, 2008 10:47 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
okie wrote:
Now Obama was running a lottery for campaign contributors that contribute more than a certain amount can get their name in a drawing to win a better seat and meet Obama back stage.

Do these people have any sense?


okie, You seem to be ignorant of the human desire to meet the famous and infamous - and pay for the privilege. A Chinese businessman just paid 2.3 million to have lunch with Warren Buffett.

Oh and one other problem besides being possibly illegal, is the next step will be renting out the Lincoln Bedroom. Perhaps he learned this from the Clintons?
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okie
 
  1  
Wed 9 Jul, 2008 10:49 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
okie wrote:
Probably from a teleprompter, cyclops.

Paint me skeptical, and you would be correct.


With our without a teleprompter, he speaks it better then your ass does.

You will note that Obama has called for America's kids to be learning a foreign language as part of their education. Not necessarily American adults, who left formal education long ago. So your original argument doesn't really hold much water at all, actually.

You're really reaching these days... I can't help but think that this is b/c, even after all the 'mistakes' you like to point out, Obama seems to do better and better in the polls every day. It must be frustrating for ya.

Cycloptichorn

The educational system has a hard enough time teaching English, cyclops, let alone another language. I agree another language would be nice, but Europeans speak another language out of necessity. We have no such necessity, currently. I learned a bit of German in college, but never used it, so I have forgotten all but a few words.

Obama's appeal to learn Spanish is nothing more than pandering to win votes.
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H2O MAN
 
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Wed 9 Jul, 2008 10:53 am
okie wrote:


Obama's appeal to learn Spanish is nothing more than pandering to win votes.


You are correct sir !!
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Diest TKO
 
  1  
Wed 9 Jul, 2008 10:53 am
Just a note as a trilingual student. Studying a foreign language actually promotes a better understanding of one's first language.

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okie
 
  1  
Wed 9 Jul, 2008 11:02 am
Diest TKO wrote:
Just a note as a trilingual student. Studying a foreign language actually promotes a better understanding of one's first language.

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Say again, I want to make sure I heard you right, Diest?
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Wed 9 Jul, 2008 11:04 am
okie wrote:
Diest TKO wrote:
Just a note as a trilingual student. Studying a foreign language actually promotes a better understanding of one's first language.

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Say again, I want to make sure I heard you right, Diest?


Of course it does, Okie. It forces one to truly understand grammar in English, to properly learn it in another language. You can't learn what the Direct Object of a sentence is, or a Dangling Participle, in Spanish, if you don't know what those words mean in English first.

THINK before posting, use that thing sitting on your shoulders~!

Cycloptichorn
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okie
 
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Wed 9 Jul, 2008 11:06 am
I agree with you, cyclops, but in Diest case I am not sure it is working. See the conservatism thread.
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McGentrix
 
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Wed 9 Jul, 2008 11:53 am
http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/images/pander_bear_032007.jpg

Obama has been recently spotted at a campaign rally...
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