real life
 
  1  
Tue 15 Apr, 2008 05:53 am
ossobuco wrote:
They are expecting Dems to listen to Lieberman?


They should.

He won his race and didn't even have the support of his party.

If you want a man who knows how to draw from the political center, he's among the top 3 IMHO.

But I really hope that they don't listen to him. Crash and burn.
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blueflame1
 
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Tue 15 Apr, 2008 06:20 am
okie, Wright condemns wars of choice. Rightly so. America in Iraq and Israel in Gaza and the West Bank are doing condemnable things.
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revel
 
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Tue 15 Apr, 2008 06:33 am
real life wrote:
ossobuco wrote:
They are expecting Dems to listen to Lieberman?


They should.

He won his race and didn't even have the support of his party.

If you want a man who knows how to draw from the political center, he's among the top 3 IMHO.

But I really hope that they don't listen to him. Crash and burn.


Considering that Lieberman has bascially been a parrot for this administration the "dems" wouldn't listen to him on a platter even if it did cost votes. At least this dem wouldn't. We may as well become neo-cons ourselves.

I think it was past loyalty to Lieberman in his own hometown that won him the re-election. On the whole most liberals did better in 2006 than did republicans or democrats acting like republicans.
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maporsche
 
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Tue 15 Apr, 2008 07:23 am
revel wrote:
Considering that Lieberman has bascially been a parrot for this administration the "dems" wouldn't listen to him on a platter even if it did cost votes. At least this dem wouldn't. We may as well become neo-cons ourselves.


To be fair, you'd have to qualify this comment towards specifically talking about the war in the ME.

His voting record on other issues is pretty much in line with most democrats.
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revel
 
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Tue 15 Apr, 2008 07:34 am
maporsche wrote:
revel wrote:
Considering that Lieberman has bascially been a parrot for this administration the "dems" wouldn't listen to him on a platter even if it did cost votes. At least this dem wouldn't. We may as well become neo-cons ourselves.


To be fair, you'd have to qualify this comment towards specifically talking about the war in the ME.

His voting record on other issues is pretty much in line with most democrats.


Granted; nevertheless..
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nimh
 
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Tue 15 Apr, 2008 07:46 am
real life wrote:
ossobuco wrote:
They are expecting Dems to listen to Lieberman?


They should.

He won his race and didn't even have the support of his party.

If you want a man who knows how to draw from the political center, he's among the top 3 IMHO.

Um. They voted him back in because he assured them that, even though he lost the Democratic primaries and stood as an independent, he still very much considered himself a Democrat, would represent Connecticut as one, and would caucus with the Democrats in the Senate.

Of course, ever since, Lieberman has instead often talked and acted as an ersatz-Republican. But make no mistake: this was not what the CT voters wanted, or what they would vote for again. According to a recent poll, they would vote for Lamont over Lieberman if they had a second chance, and do so by a significant margin.
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real life
 
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Tue 15 Apr, 2008 07:46 am
revel wrote:
real life wrote:
ossobuco wrote:
They are expecting Dems to listen to Lieberman?


They should.

He won his race and didn't even have the support of his party.

If you want a man who knows how to draw from the political center, he's among the top 3 IMHO.

But I really hope that they don't listen to him. Crash and burn.


Considering that Lieberman has bascially been a parrot for this administration the "dems" wouldn't listen to him on a platter even if it did cost votes. At least this dem wouldn't. We may as well become neo-cons ourselves.

I think it was past loyalty to Lieberman in his own hometown that won him the re-election. On the whole most liberals did better in 2006 than did republicans or democrats acting like republicans.


Lieberman is one of the few Dems who has not played politics with the war.

He doesn't come from the al Jazeera wing of the Democratic party.

Would you have preferred that Saddam were still in power , filling mass graves with the bodies of his political enemies, financing and harboring terrorists, building himself palaces while denying basic human rights to his people, and violating the terms of the ceasefire of the Gulf War?

The present action in Iraq is simply the result of Saddam's calculated deception.

He was afraid of Iran and set out to deceive the world into thinking he was actively developing WMDs.

Saddam lied, people died.

Dems won't admit this because then they'd have to be loyal Americans and back American foreign policy.

Partisanship used to end at the water's edge. Not any more.

Dems have actively sought to undermine American interests at every turn.

They are a disgrace, and Joe Lieberman is one of the few exceptions, a Dem with integrity.
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nimh
 
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Tue 15 Apr, 2008 07:50 am
Well, somebody is being a disgrace...
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real life
 
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Tue 15 Apr, 2008 07:55 am
nimh wrote:
Well, somebody is being a disgrace...


Are you referring to Jimmy Carter meeting with Hamas?
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real life
 
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Tue 15 Apr, 2008 07:56 am
nimh wrote:
Well, somebody is being a disgrace...


Are you referring to Democratic Congressman Jim McDermott being flown to Iraq by Saddam to be his flak? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23817013/
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real life
 
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Tue 15 Apr, 2008 08:02 am
nimh wrote:
Well, somebody is being a disgrace...


Are you referring to Democratic Congressman John Murtha accusing US Marines of 'cold blooded murder' ?
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Diest TKO
 
  1  
Tue 15 Apr, 2008 09:01 am
real life wrote:
nimh wrote:
Well, somebody is being a disgrace...


Are you referring to Jimmy Carter meeting with Hamas?

Want to tell Carter who he can and can't talk to? He doesn't owe you anything, and quite frankly, I think his efforts are more bold than dropping any number of bombs.

At least he helps build the houses back.


T
K
O
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Diest TKO
 
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Tue 15 Apr, 2008 09:05 am
real life wrote:
nimh wrote:
Well, somebody is being a disgrace...


Are you referring to Democratic Congressman John Murtha accusing US Marines of 'cold blooded murder' ?


"Military officials told NBC News that the Marine Corps' own evidence appears to show Murtha is right."

source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12838343/

T
Keep it up
:wink:
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blatham
 
  1  
Tue 15 Apr, 2008 09:16 am
Diest TKO wrote:
real life wrote:
nimh wrote:
Well, somebody is being a disgrace...


Are you referring to Democratic Congressman John Murtha accusing US Marines of 'cold blooded murder' ?


"Military officials told NBC News that the Marine Corps' own evidence appears to show Murtha is right."

source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12838343/

T
Keep it up
:wink:


Clearly, those military officials are from the al Jazeera wing of the American armed forces.
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nimh
 
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Tue 15 Apr, 2008 09:46 am
LOL
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mysteryman
 
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Tue 15 Apr, 2008 09:48 am
Thats funny, both of you ignored the part about Jim McDermott.
Why is that?
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nimh
 
  1  
Tue 15 Apr, 2008 09:51 am
Newspapers in mid-sized Pennsylvania towns endorse Obama - Part II

The Scranton Times-Tribune: Barack Obama, for leadership
(April 13, 2008)

Quote:
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nimh
 
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Tue 15 Apr, 2008 09:52 am
mysteryman wrote:
Thats funny, both of you ignored the part about Jim McDermott.
Why is that?

For one, cause it's got nothing to do with this thread. It's just bait.
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mysteryman
 
  1  
Tue 15 Apr, 2008 09:55 am
nimh wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Thats funny, both of you ignored the part about Jim McDermott.
Why is that?

For one, cause it's got nothing to do with this thread. It's just bait.


Neither did Murtha or Carter, but they responded to tthose claims.
Why be so selective?
Is is because McDermott actulaay did go to Iraq at Hsseins expense?

BTW, the marines involved in the Haditha incident have all so far been cleared of any wrongdoing.
There are still 2 either on trial or awaiting trial, but the rest have been cleared.
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blatham
 
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Tue 15 Apr, 2008 10:08 am
Quote:
Is is because McDermott actulaay did go to Iraq at Hsseins expense?

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/rumsfeld-hussein.jpg

This was Rumsfeld, going to Iraq at US taxpayers' expense. Something to do with the sale of chemical constituents which Sadaam later used against 'his own people', perhaps.
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