snood
 
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Wed 16 Aug, 2006 09:35 pm
BernardS is a living advertisement for the need for an ignore button., and Miller is equally clueless, but just slightly less verbose.
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Miller
 
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Wed 16 Aug, 2006 09:37 pm
blatham wrote:
Whatever might be behind his contributions, forthrightness and relevance aren't gonna be abundant.


You realize of course, your post makes no sense at all. Embarrassed

Poor choice of grammar, if I may say so.
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snood
 
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Wed 16 Aug, 2006 09:43 pm
Yeah, blatham - make sense, yuh heathen.
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BernardR
 
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Wed 16 Aug, 2006 11:25 pm
This thread is about Obama. Who is Obama? He told us in his autobiography which no one on this thread except me has read.

His father, A Kenyan abandoned his Kansas born Caucasian Mother in Hawaii.

Obama, because of his father's influence, attended two years in a Muslim School( only his psychoanalist know how that affected him)

Obama admitted to using drugs_cocaine.

His colleagues at Harvard did not view him as a good leader.

His voting record, which I posted shows he is an opportunist.
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BernardR
 
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Wed 16 Aug, 2006 11:26 pm
This thread is about Obama. Who is Obama? He told us in his autobiography which no one on this thread except me has read.

His father, A Kenyan abandoned his Kansas born Caucasian Mother in Hawaii.

Obama, because of his father's influence, attended two years in a Muslim School( only his psychoanalist know how that affected him)

Obama admitted to using drugs_cocaine.

His colleagues at Harvard did not view him as a good leader.

His voting record, which I posted shows he is an opportunist.
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nimh
 
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Thu 17 Aug, 2006 05:28 pm
OK, to get this thread back on track, there's some very, very interesting tidbits in the story below, about Obama's forthcoming Africa trip. It's sure to delight Soz.

For one, there's two concrete and laudable examples of Obama's own actions/proposals. They're also neatly balanced: on a legislative tip, an amendment he sponsored on Congo for funding that would be conditional on the country's democratic reforms; on a personal tip, a "microcredit" program that helps Kenyan women with adopted kids suffering from AIDS to set up their own businesses, which he supported with his personal funds.

Secondly, there's obvious potential strategic pluses with this trip. Obama raucously welcomed on foreign trip -- now that would undeniably be just the kind of publicity someone needs, whose one acknowledged weakness is lack of foreign policy profile in troubled international times and inexperience in general.

Thirdly, note how Obama clearly sets out a vision thats far removed from any impression of charity politics. He goes out of his way to put Africa's own responsibility at the center of it, its own need for reform and modernisation. Indirectly, of course, implicitly rebutting any possible future line of attack that he would be a throw-money-at-it liberal, or someone whose ancestry would make him 'nepotistically' coddle African countries, to just mention two.

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BernardR
 
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Thu 17 Aug, 2006 05:49 pm
Obama is a spineless wimp who runs out on his friends and has no courage at all.

Robert Novak's column today

Quote---"Durbin earmark's defeat no sign of reform"

Payback time came Aug. 2nd when the Defense Appropriations bill was debated under the management of Stevens as Appropiations subcommittee chairman.Durbin proposed his University of Chicago earmark to imprpe imaging of traumatic brain injuries. Durbin had been turned down in Stevens's subcommittee but he used his access as WHIP to try again on the floor. THE CO-SPONSOR--DURBIN'S COLLEAGUE FROM ILLINOIS, BARACK OBAMA--WAS NOWHERE TO BE SEEN FOR WHAT ENSUED>"

end of quote

As was pointed out by Obama's colleagues at Harvard Law School-He is not a good leader. As is pointed out by the evidence above, he is a SPINELESS WIMP WHO WILL NOT COME TO THE AID OF HIS COLLEAGUE EVEN TO DEFEND A BILL FOR WHICH HE IS THE CO-SPONSOR.....


Even the reader at the sixth grade, level, Snoid, can understand that!!!
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dyslexia
 
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Thu 17 Aug, 2006 05:55 pm
It was just today that I read an article that stated that Posner was a SPINELESS WIMP that never provided any actual research before opining on his many topics.
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BernardR
 
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Thu 17 Aug, 2006 05:58 pm
As was pointed out by Obama's colleagues at Harvard Law School-He is not a good leader. Obama is a SPINELESS WIMP WHO WILL NOT COME TO THE AID OF HIS COLLEAGUE EVEN TO DEFEND A BILL FOR WHICH HE IS THE CO-SPONSOR.....

He may still be on Cocaine which would partially explain for his trip to Africa-_I understand that there is a good supply in that region!!
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nimh
 
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Thu 17 Aug, 2006 05:58 pm
Ah yes, Novak. The epitome of objectivity.

And cocaine? From Africa? <raises eyebrow>
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BernardR
 
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Thu 17 Aug, 2006 06:08 pm
Ah from Obama! The epitome of moderation? Obama is an ex cocaine user. He went to school for two years in a Muslim School. His colleagues at Harvard Law School thought he was an ineffective leader. He won a race against a person that could have been beaten by ANYONE!!!!

You really should keep up on the news-Nihm- Obama can get a noseful and probably will( You can't cure old Cocaine addicts) from Niggeria.

Note

Nigerian traffickers smuggle cocaine through Nigeria

By Dan Isaacs in Lagos
The Nigerian authorities have announced their biggest seizure of cocaine at a port in the country's commercial capital, Lagos.

It is the latest in a series of recent successful drugs busts and it demonstrates renewed resolve by the Nigerians to tackle the trade in narcotics.

Nigeria is still one of the world's hubs for the international drugs trade.

But in recent months a series of major seizures has given the impression at least that the authorities are determined to do something about it.

This latest haul of cocaine with a street value of about $10m is the largest by the Nigerian drugs law enforcement agency since it was established 12 years ago.

Its chairman, Alhaji Belo Lafiaji, said 60 kg of cocaine were seized from a Lagos port area known as Tin Can Island.

Arrests

There were three arrests, two of them Nigerian, and a third described as a foreign collaborator working on board a ship in the port.

That vessel has also been impounded.

Nigeria does not produce hard drugs like cocaine and heroin, but Nigerian gangs have played an important role in transporting drugs to America and Europe.
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Vietnamnurse
 
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Thu 17 Aug, 2006 07:14 pm
Bleh!
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sozobe
 
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Thu 17 Aug, 2006 08:47 pm
nimh wrote:
OK, to get this thread back on track, there's some very, very interesting tidbits in the story below, about Obama's forthcoming Africa trip. It's sure to delight Soz.


Indeed! Thanks for posting it. I liked and agree with your analysis.
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Miller
 
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Thu 17 Aug, 2006 09:08 pm
How will Obama's trip to Africa re-vitalize the slums on the South and Westsides in the City of Chicago?

Instead of worrying about AIDS in Africa, Obama needs to worry about healthcare for unwed Hispanic and Black mothers in Chicago. How about developing and supporting educational programs that might just help these women to eventually get off welfare?

How about programs to locate the "fathers" of all the babies born out of wedlock?

How about programs that force these "fathers" to pay childcare support?

Why should Illinois be taking 2nd place to Africa
in Obama's plans for improvements?

How about computerizing the Illinois State Department of Public Health so that death and birth certificates ( certified ) can be obtained in less than 4 weeks?

It's time that voters in Illinois wake up and introduce Obama to the numerous problems of the "Prairie State" and put African problems "on ice".

Will Illinois ever leave the Dark Ages and enter the world of modernity?
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BernardR
 
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Thu 17 Aug, 2006 11:32 pm
Obama hasn't done a thing for the Chicago African-American community that he couldn't put in a photo op!!

Mr.Nimh( after I replicated part of the column written by Robert Novak)
was not the scholarly Nimh I am used to reading.

Mr. Nimh said--Ah, Novak--- the epitome of objectivity!!!

I am certain that Mr. Nimh knows that one's objectivity cannot be in question when one reports a VERIFIABLE FACT. The verifiable fact being that OBAMA was NOT present WHEN Senator Durbin put his earmark request on the floor of the Senate. AND IT IS ALSO A FACT THAT OBAMA WAS A CO-SPONSOR OF THE EARMARK.

And then Mr. Nimh raised his eyebrow( Inhis post) when I mentioned Cocaine did indeed go through Africa.

I proved it.

Mr. Nimh said nothing in response!!!
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BernardR
 
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Thu 17 Aug, 2006 11:37 pm
OK- to get this thread back on track- Time to look at the record of the inefficent and incompetent Junior Senator from Illinois- Obama-


Obama's Energy Policy -- Looking at His Record
It's time again to look at Obama's record as is pointed out on his Web Site, this time it's Energy. Lets look at the four bills he makes reference to as part of his record on Energy.
The first is SB2321, The Renewable Portfolio Standard. He was only a co-sponsor on this bill, it currently is sitting in the Senate Rules Committee.
The next is SB134 the Biodiesel Fuel Act, this bill at least made it out of the Senate Rules committee briefly and was referred to the Environment & Energy Committee who referred it back to the Rules Committee.
Then we have SB609 Energy Efficiency Building Act which actually passed out of the Senate only to end up in the Rules Committee in the House where it has been sitting for over the last year.
Finally there is SB1380 the Minimum Energy Efficiency Standards Act which Provided that the Director of Commerce and Community Affairs shall adopt rules establishing minimum efficiency standards for certain products sold or installed in this State. Yet again this passed out of the Senate only to end up in the House Rules Committee where it has been sitting for over a year.
So for his 'record' on Energy the Obama web site lists 4 bills, none of which passed, all of which were introduced in the last two years.
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BernardR
 
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Thu 17 Aug, 2006 11:42 pm
Obama is a typical doubletalking Senator--except that he is much better at it.

Obama on Education--

Obama Talks Education with The Rockford Register Star
Obama had a Q&A session with a reporter from the Rockford Register Star



Q: Illinois ranks at the bottom of the 50 states for funding its schools, according to Education Weekly. How would you be better able to change that as a member of Congress?
A: How we fund public school education is largely a function of state government, but the only way we change the matter in which public education is funded is if we're able to put money in the system so that we're leveling up, instead of leveling down. The politics of school funding are very difficult because the school districts that are well-funded don't want to give up the money for those school districts that aren't well-funded. So even within the Democratic Party you're going to have differences - winners and losers -- in that debate.

The way I distill the question down is.
What can you do at the federal level to raise the level of funding of schools in this state? If that's the question ... Obama completely failed to answer it.

It is nice to say you want to raise schools up and make them better, yada, yada, yada. The question Sen. Obama, is how are you going to do that? Can you even do that as a US Senator? If so how and if not why not, is it because 'The politics of school funding are very difficult'?*********************************************************

Yes, yada yada yada yada, is what Obama said about Education. It is evident that he doesn't know the first thing about how to fix the problem or he would have told the interviewer.

Instead he escaped into a generalized fog as he always does!!!
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blatham
 
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Fri 18 Aug, 2006 07:09 am
thanks for that piece nimh
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blatham
 
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Fri 18 Aug, 2006 07:43 am
Under the 'better late than never' category...

Quote:
Republicans Losing The 'Security Moms'

By Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, August 18, 2006; Page A01

CLINTONVILLE, Ohio, Aug. 17 -- Married women with children, the "security moms" whose concerns about terrorism made them an essential part of Republican victories in 2002 and 2004, are taking flight from GOP politicians this year in ways that appear likely to provide a major boost for Democrats in the midterm elections, according to polls and interviews.
full piece
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blatham
 
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Fri 18 Aug, 2006 08:06 am
Requesting formal permission for heresy.

This heresy is on the conditions that Obama doesn't run or is beaten by someone else and that congress falls Dem this Nov and, preferably the Senate also in 08. Then... perhaps it would be best if McCain wins in 08.

I argue this from several main premises. First, that the modern conservative movement, if it remains the fundamental power point in American politics, will take the US much further towards authoritarianism and (I think likely) so far down that path that recovery will be improbable. Second, that conditions are now in place (economic and propagandist and organizational) which will make a successful Dem presidency very problematic. Third, that a McCain presidency might well (I think its probable) function to weaken or roll back the extremism of the present regime and its organization and propagandist extremisms through McCain's own policies/values and through the association in citizens' minds between worsening conditions (domestic and foreign) with Republican control.

It ought to be clear from the above that I'm much less concerned with Republican control than I am by the characteristics of the present "conservative" ideology.

Let me add that, when the last election fell to Bush, I advanced the proposition that a positive might well result. I believed, and do even moreso now, that the policies pushed by the Bush administration and its associated organizational agents would provide the best and most convincing 'argument' against itself. Incompetence, dishonesty and tyranny (relative of course, but applicable) can't disguise themselves forever.
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