okie
 
  1  
Sun 23 Mar, 2008 05:17 pm
I am curious, does cyclops also believe the government invented HIV as a way to commit genocide against people of color?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Sun 23 Mar, 2008 05:17 pm
Asherman wrote:
Keep on smok'n Cyclops.


A typical answer when one has no good argument to counter one's opponents.

I will predict for you: if Obama wins the nomination, which he looks likely to, he will crush McCain this fall. The Dems are going to win seats in the house, and likely 2-4 seats in the Senate as well.

Cycloptichorn
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Sun 23 Mar, 2008 05:20 pm
okie wrote:
I am curious, does cyclops also believe the government invented HIV as a way to commit genocide against people of color?


Oh, I doubt it. But we don't really know where HIV came from. And the AA community has had a history of these things being done to them. So I understand their paranoia.

And you should too; it is a mirror of the Muslim paranoia that so many Right-wingers display on a daily basis, or the gay paranoia that so many of them show. Nameless fears that have no real basis in reality, or logic, yet are difficult to move on from.

As I have said before, I find most all religious folk to be equally crazy. It's just a question of which flavor.

Cycloptichorn
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dyslexia
 
  1  
Sun 23 Mar, 2008 05:22 pm
Asherman wrote:
Keep on smok'n Cyclops.
Yes, you've told us all that you quit the devil weed. I suppose next you will tell us your mind is now clear.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Sun 23 Mar, 2008 05:24 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
Advocate wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Actually one salutes the flag and neither the Pledge nor the National Anthem.



Yes, but it is done at the time of the Pledge.


Whether during the Pledge or during the National Anthem, however, that photo of Obama being the only one on the podium without his hand over his heart, his refusing to wear a flag lapel pin when other members of Congress were doing so, etc. in and of themselves are of little importance. But attach them to the whole Jeremiah Wright bruhaha, [sic]however, and they likely take on new significance.



F***ing amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What kind of idiot thinks that wearing a pin or putting your hand of one's heart is any indication of patriotism. The FOUNDING FATHERS are spinning in their graves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Foxfyre
 
  1  
Sun 23 Mar, 2008 05:27 pm
Re that Pew report, don't forget how many Republicans had to jump ship to vote for Hillary. Smile
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Roxxxanne
 
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Sun 23 Mar, 2008 05:29 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Roxxxanne wrote:
Asherman wrote:
I really doubt that Obama's close relationship to a racial bigot will be forgotten any time this year. As time goes on, more stones will be tipped over and Obama already can no longer sanctimoniously claim unspotted virtue.

But, that's O.K.... roll the dice and run him in the General Election.


He never claimed unspotted virtue. Read his book and stop being so ignorant.



As if all presidents had "sanctimonious claims to unspotted virtue."
How ridiculous!


LOL then the most out of touch poster on A2K (asherman) tries to smear Obama with his admitted drug use when that was exactly my point. That Obama never claimed to have "unspotted virtue."
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Roxxxanne
 
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Sun 23 Mar, 2008 05:32 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
okie wrote:
I am curious, does cyclops also believe the government invented HIV as a way to commit genocide against people of color?


Oh, I doubt it. But we don't really know where HIV came from. And the AA community has had a history of these things being done to them. So I understand their paranoia.

And you should too; it is a mirror of the Muslim paranoia that so many Right-wingers display on a daily basis, or the gay paranoia that so many of them show. Nameless fears that have no real basis in reality, or logic, yet are difficult to move on from.

As I have said before, I find most all religious folk to be equally crazy. It's just a question of which flavor.

Cycloptichorn


And don't forget the Tuskegee Airman and the administration of LSD by the US Govt. But what I am really sick of are the bigots who try to define Rev.Wright by these few sound bites. I am quite sure most of us have said things that we were outrageous in a moment of passion.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Sun 23 Mar, 2008 05:45 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
Yes, public relations problems are rarely created and/or sustained by one's dedicated supporters/admirers/devotees. That's sort of the way it works.


You are confusing PR problems with smear campaigns.
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nappyheadedhohoho
 
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Sun 23 Mar, 2008 05:55 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
okie wrote:
I am curious, does cyclops also believe the government invented HIV as a way to commit genocide against people of color?


Oh, I doubt it. But we don't really know where HIV came from. And the AA community has had a history of these things being done to them. So I understand their paranoia.


Wright has exploited that paranoia by deliberately instilling the belief that whites aren't just prejudiced against blacks, but whites are trying to kill them.

By preaching this to young black men, he's fostering a terrible sense of victimhood that has serious consequences for both whites and blacks.

Yet the Left sees nothing wrong with this.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Sun 23 Mar, 2008 06:09 pm
nappyheadedhohoho wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
okie wrote:
I am curious, does cyclops also believe the government invented HIV as a way to commit genocide against people of color?


Oh, I doubt it. But we don't really know where HIV came from. And the AA community has had a history of these things being done to them. So I understand their paranoia.


Wright has exploited that paranoia by deliberately instilling the belief that whites aren't just prejudiced against blacks, but whites are trying to kill them.

By preaching this to young black men, he's fostering a terrible sense of victimhood that has serious consequences for both whites and blacks.

Yet the Left sees nothing wrong with this.


What do you think about preachers who preach against Gays, or Muslims?

Ever see the movie 'Jesus Camp?' You ought to.

Cycloptichorn
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 23 Mar, 2008 06:20 pm
What I remember about where HIV came from was a Canadian airline stewart, but that could have been misinformation or I remembered it wrong.
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spendius
 
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Sun 23 Mar, 2008 06:35 pm
Is that the same as AIDs c.i?

Bill Burroughs said it was brewing in Africa in about 1958 which is a long time ago IMHAHO.

So a Canadian airline stewart could well have been on an overnight stop in Nairobi or Khartoum or one of those places jets stop at when they are depositing idiots at the entrance gate to safari trips.

You might be on to something.

Do you think it was the "stewart" rather than the pilot for snobby reasons?
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nappyheadedhohoho
 
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Sun 23 Mar, 2008 06:38 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
nappyheadedhohoho wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
okie wrote:
I am curious, does cyclops also believe the government invented HIV as a way to commit genocide against people of color?


Oh, I doubt it. But we don't really know where HIV came from. And the AA community has had a history of these things being done to them. So I understand their paranoia.


Wright has exploited that paranoia by deliberately instilling the belief that whites aren't just prejudiced against blacks, but whites are trying to kill them.

By preaching this to young black men, he's fostering a terrible sense of victimhood that has serious consequences for both whites and blacks.

Yet the Left sees nothing wrong with this.


What do you think about preachers who preach against Gays, or Muslims?

Ever see the movie 'Jesus Camp?' You ought to.

Cycloptichorn


Is "others do it too" your best reply? I think this is going to be a real problem for your candidate. People are going to find it very difficult to believe that Obama did not know many of these views and many will wonder why he was so silent.

I think he will get the nomination, you are right about that. Even if the superdelegates realize that he is unelectable, he will be nominated rather than destroy the party.

I think in the general election, the heat will be too much for Obama and he will have to renounce his pastor. Just as he did in the 'disinvite' to his presidential announcement, he can always apologize after the fact and tell his loving uncle he didn't 'really' mean it.

He's a hypocrite, though, if he continues to preach about wanting to "narrow the racial divide". He'll do whatever is politically expedient and throw anyone in his way under the first bus he sees.
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spendius
 
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Sun 23 Mar, 2008 06:42 pm
That's going a bit far nappy.

Do you you really think that?

If he could learn how to wag his ears when he's going spiritual on "CHANGE" it would be a cinch.
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nappyheadedhohoho
 
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Sun 23 Mar, 2008 06:54 pm
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okie
 
  1  
Sun 23 Mar, 2008 07:11 pm
Now we see that any criticism of Wright is characterized by his predecessor as a modern-day lynching, similar to that of Jesus.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/23/in-eastor-sermon-trinity-united-pastor-compares-rev-wright-to-jesus/



This is getting bizarre to say the least.

An observation about this "black liberation theology," it seems to incorporate alot more than religion, probably mostly politics, and mostly victimology of the poor and railing against the rich. It apparently has had some elements of marxism mixed in with it at various times in various places. So, the red flags continue to go up in regard to Obama's so-called religion, which is very possibly more political than religious.

It is very difficult indeed to believe Obama is a uniter when he hangs around people that wallow in misery, in victimology, in the past, and in pessimism and hopelessness in their own ability to do anything for themselves without the government fixing them.
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revel
 
  1  
Sun 23 Mar, 2008 07:22 pm
Luckily most people seem to trust in the words Obama says about race despite his church and his unwillingness to denounce his church and his pastor.

The following poll has been left but it bears repeating giving the level of rhetoric displayed in this thread today.

Quote:


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/21/poll-obama-receives-high-marks-for-race-speech/
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blueflame1
 
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Sun 23 Mar, 2008 07:33 pm
"Hagee's endorsement of McCain is far worse then Obama's relationship with Wright. Far worse. " If so what makes it so? Two Christian preachers with opposite views. Hagee is a well documented rapturite. He believes in bringing about the second coming of Christ through war, an Armageddon. Iraq, Iran, Syria, WW3. Jews in the end will convert or die in the war. He makes himself perfectly clear. Wright on the other hand says God damn that. He criticizes America for killing the innocent in this Bushie war built on lies. Built on the backs of rapturites like Hagee and their congregations. Wright has a much more Christlike attitude in all his charges. His criticism is steeped in evidence. His motive is healing imo. But before healing and treatment can happen the disease must be diagnosed and accepted for what it is. Hegge certainly is a big part of the disease. Wright is a healer should America stop, look and listen to what he says and why.
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teenyboone
 
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Sun 23 Mar, 2008 08:29 pm
nappyheadedhohoho wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
okie wrote:
I am curious, does cyclops also believe the government invented HIV as a way to commit genocide against people of color?


Oh, I doubt it. But we don't really know where HIV came from. And the AA community has had a history of these things being done to them. So I understand their paranoia.


Wright has exploited that paranoia by deliberately instilling the belief that whites aren't just prejudiced against blacks, but whites are trying to kill them.

By preaching this to young black men, he's fostering a terrible sense of victimhood that has serious consequences for both whites and blacks.

Yet the Left sees nothing wrong with this.


Better for Black men to KNOW what they're up against than for bigots, to attack them! I raised 2 Black Men and I told them exactly the same thing!
I don't consider my self on the left, I consider myself, educated to racism and I know it when I see it. We've been victimized by some whites, all our lives. Just let a Black man walk into a room of whites and see what happens! Everything stops and he is scrutinized and made to feel as though he doesn't belong. It's happened to me all my life Exclamation
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