Obama '08?

Just calling it like I sees it.

Cycloptichorn

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well we're in agreement about each other then. common ground. god bless america.

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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

well we're in agreement about each other then. common ground. god bless america.

Only Obama could have made it happen.

Cycloptichorn

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face it folks.... your boy looks a little less like a messiah and a little more like a mere mortal politician today. He's not having a good day.

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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

face it folks.... your boy looks a little less like a messiah and a little more like a mere mortal politician today. He's not having a good day.

Hell, not a good week.

He needs to work on driving the media better. Hillary has gamed the media pretty well, what with her constant bitching about them being unfair to her. I hope that he can have a larger presence after wins on Sat. and next Tues., and try and get his stories out in front of her constant outrages.

I do take solace in the fact that he still has a comfortable lead and a foreseeable path to the nomination which doesn't involve some sort of rule changes.

Cycloptichorn

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the ONLY difference

Hillary= aggressive

Obama= passive aggressive

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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

the ONLY difference

Hillary= aggressive

Obama= passive aggressive

We'll see how he responds. It's actually not such a bad thing - knowing how a team does when things aren't going well is almost as important as knowing how they do when they are.

If Obama can't bounce back from this and re-capture the narrative, then he doesn't deserve to win!

I think Hillary better play this next week or so correctly; she wouldn't be the first boxer to punch herself out a bit when she thinks the other guy is on the ropes. There's a long time between now and PA and it's hard to see the entire period being as down for Obama as this week has been, especially if he pulls some wins out, which he should.

Cycloptichorn

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I think the following is rather revealing. After we have listened to the mantra of "change change change," one wonders what these Democrats are talking about. Here is what one foreign leader concludes, and I can't say he doesn't have reason to conclude what he did. After all, why talk about nothing but change if you don't believe what you currently have is a failure. I guess that is the logical conclusion here:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335993,00.html

Libyan strongman Col. Muammar al-Qaddafi weighed in on America's presidential campaign, specifically commenting on both Democratic rivals' repeated calls for "change."

"I've seen that in America, a candidate who wants people to vote for him keeps talking about change," Qaddafi said earlier this week in a televised address on Libyan TV, an obvious reference to Barack Obama.

"They all keep saying 'change, change,' " he continued, adding Hillary Clinton to his reference. "They want to change America and its current political system. They want to make a change in their lives. They say their system is a failure, that their government is a failure, and that their elections are a failure."

Qaddafi offered up Libya as a model for "change," predicting that "the whole world will return to the model of the republic of the masses, to communes, to popular security, to popular defense, to popular capitalism, and to popular socialism.

"The whole world will return to the Libyan model," he said.

So I add my question to Qaddafi's observation, just what does Obama and Clinton want to change to? Is it the Libyan model or some other kind of model of government.

Personally, I am sick of this change talk. I think we should quit being a bunch of whiners and complainers and go back to what made this country successful in the first place, and it certainly isn't what Clinton or Obama have in mind.

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Just when ya thought it couldn't get any funnier...

Hey Okie. Rolling Eyes

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Well, as an independent observer, old Qaddafi has a point. What are you supposed to conclude if you listen to our politicians? If my wife starts chanting change at me day and night, I may become worried she thinks I am a failure. I might begin to wonder, what kind of a husband does she want now? I might wonder if she ever loved me and maybe doesn't now?

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Yeah, I miss him, too.... Rolling Eyes

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Oh dear girls.....

http://www.newsweek.com/id/119953

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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

face it folks.... your boy looks a little less like a messiah and a little more like a mere mortal politician today. He's not having a good day.

Our "boy?" Wow, now I know why you oppose him.

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blueflame1 wrote:

FreeDuck, I think Obama would do well if Florida revoted. He would have a chance to campaign unlike the first vote. At worst he'd walk away with a fair share of delegates.

Of course, he was training in Ohio,Texas and almost everywhere by twenty points or more at one point. Hillary might not have such an edge if African-Americans are mobilized to vote in a real campaign.

In 2000, blacks who are 13% of the the registered voters in Florida accounted for 15% of the vote. Who knows? In a winner take all scenario, which Florida certainly would be if the crazy idea of a re-vote actually occurred in June. Blacks might account for upwards to 20% of the vote. I just don't think Hillary's base would be as strongly motivated to come out for her as Obama supporters would be.

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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

face it folks.... your boy looks a little less like a messiah and a little more like a mere mortal politician today. He's not having a good day.

Face it bear, your girl has a hard time building herself up without tearing other people down. Tell me, if she gets the nomination, how is she going to get Obama's supporters on board? Or don't you need us?

I look forward to watching you do an about face and suddenly praise all of President Bush's tactics when they come from President Clinton, as if different ends can somehow justify the same means. In fact, I'm bookmarking this post so I'll be able to find it when people begin to express astonishment that domestic spying continues and war with Iran is still on the horizon.

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so you're going to either stay home or vote for Mccain if Hill gets the nomination?

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Roxxxanne wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
face it folks.... your boy looks a little less like a messiah and a little more like a mere mortal politician today. He's not having a good day.

Our "boy?" Wow, now I know why you oppose him.

going to throw out a little **** house analyzing there?

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BBB
I think it must be a communist plot that fate created a contest between Clinton and Obama at the same time.

BBB

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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

so you're going to either stay home or vote for Mccain if Hill gets the nomination?

I don't know yet. I had thought that I would vote for her anyway. I admit that I'm having second thoughts about that. I'm kind of tired of having to choose between bad and worse in every election. If we elect a Democrat but nothing changes, then what was the point? If she can convince me that she'll undo the things that Bush has done with respect to politicizing the Justice department, civil liberties, checks and balances, transparency in government, etc... then she'll get my vote. As of now I haven't gotten that message from her at all. Instead she tells me that she'll solve all of my problems, which I don't believe.

But that's IF she's the nominee. I'm still hoping that I'll get to vote for someone I actually want in November.

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Nobel winner: Hillary Clinton's 'silly' Irish peace claims

Quote:

Hillary Clinton had no direct role in bringing peace to Northern Ireland and is a "wee bit silly" for exaggerating the part she played, according to Lord Trimble of Lisnagarvey, the Nobel Peace Prize winner and former First Minister of the province.

"I don't know there was much she did apart from accompanying Bill [Clinton] going around," he said. Her recent statements about being deeply involved were merely "the sort of thing people put in their canvassing leaflets" during elections. "She visited when things were happening, saw what was going on, she can certainly say it was part of her experience. I don't want to rain on the thing for her but being a cheerleader for something is slightly different from being a principal player."

Mrs Clinton has made Northern Ireland key to her claims of having extensive foreign policy experience, which helped her defeat Barack Obama in Ohio and Texas on Tuesday after she presented herself as being ready to tackle foreign policy crises at 3am.

"I helped to bring peace to Northern Ireland," she told CNN on Wednesday. But negotiators from the parties that helped broker the Good Friday Agreement in 1998 told The Daily Telegraph that her role was peripheral and that she played no part in the gruelling political talks over the years.

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