Obama '08?

MM

I think so too.


Here's Karl Rove this morning in the WSJ. The theme is...Barack is a creature of the far left. But of course, that's always true of any dem candidate. It's a rightwing election-slogan given.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120355939956381797.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

Before the Iowa caucuses, an antitax group, the Club for Growth, attacked Howard Dean in a television commercial that described his campaign as a ''latte-drinking, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving, New York Times-reading, body-piercing'' freak show.

I too painfully agree that Obama will probably get the nomination. It is really a reflection on americas obsession with the candidate as rock star and a mistake. That's my opinion and it would take something REALLY huge to get me to change it.

I won't and don't hate the guy and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt once he's in but I won't vote for him and I'm totally pessimistic about him.

He'll be a better president than bush, but that's the meaningless award of the century.

nappyheadedhohoho wrote:

Butrflynet wrote:

Part of the problem is that the people who are fanning this are leaving out one very important word in the quote from Michelle's speech. Another part of the word is that when you are reading the text of that speech you don't hear the inflection that was in her voice when she said that word they omitted. When the word and inflection are included, the quote takes on a different meaning.


What's the word that is being omitted?

"For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country. Not just because Barack is doing well, but I think people are hungry for change."

Isn't youtube great???? :wink:

Depends on who is doing the editing of the video uploaded to youtube.

Butrflynet wrote:

nappyheadedhohoho wrote:

Butrflynet wrote:

Part of the problem is that the people who are fanning this are leaving out one very important word in the quote from Michelle's speech. Another part of the word is that when you are reading the text of that speech you don't hear the inflection that was in her voice when she said that word they omitted. When the word and inflection are included, the quote takes on a different meaning.


What's the word that is being omitted?

"For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country. Not just because Barack is doing well, but I think people are hungry for change."

Isn't youtube great???? :wink:

Depends on who is doing the editing of the video uploaded to youtube.

Spin this.

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/02/19/michelle-obama-is-proud-of-her-country/

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

I too painfully agree that Obama will probably get the nomination. It is really a reflection on americas obsession with the candidate as rock star and a mistake. That's my opinion and it would take something REALLY huge to get me to change it.

I won't and don't hate the guy and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt once he's in but I won't vote for him and I'm totally pessimistic about him.

He'll be a better president than bush, but that's the meaningless award of the century.

hi bear

Not meaning to challenge your right to hold any wrong opinion, but... :wink:

You earlier suggested that the present attraction to Obama has a precedent in the attraction some felt for George W Bush. I think that's a very innaccurate comparison.

We knew Bush wasn't very intelligent. That was evident to all and it was a serious point of discussion before he gained the nomination. The kudos gained for picking Cheney as vice after he'd won the nomination related to how this added 'gravitas' or 'experience' or 'sober and thoughtful adult' to the ticket.

We know, on the other hand, that Obama is very intelligent indeed. It's a characteristic noted by all, including rightwing folks like Brooks.

We knew Bush wasn't curious. His lack of knowledge about history and about the world demonstrated not only how ill-prepared he was for this post but also that he'd apparently gone through his adult life without ever opening a book.

Something quite opposite is true of Obama (as it was of Bill Clinton). Not only has he bothered to get himself extremely well educated, but he's even written a couple of books. Can we imagine George writing a book?

And, he loves music and may need a DJ of the sublimest taste.

nappyheadedhohoho wrote:

Butrflynet wrote:

nappyheadedhohoho wrote:

Butrflynet wrote:

Part of the problem is that the people who are fanning this are leaving out one very important word in the quote from Michelle's speech. Another part of the word is that when you are reading the text of that speech you don't hear the inflection that was in her voice when she said that word they omitted. When the word and inflection are included, the quote takes on a different meaning.


What's the word that is being omitted?

"For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country. Not just because Barack is doing well, but I think people are hungry for change."

Isn't youtube great???? :wink:

Depends on who is doing the editing of the video uploaded to youtube.

Spin this.

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/02/19/michelle-obama-is-proud-of-her-country/

You see, there's no need to. B/c it's a pointless thing. It is immaterial to whether or not one should vote for Obama or McCain this fall. All it is is an attempt by losers on the right wing - such as yourself - to grasp on to a little scandal, in hopes that it will sway people's opinions. Nobody is even going to remember this in two weeks let alone six months. So I have no idea why you waste your time with crap like this.

Sure is entertaining to watch, though

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

nappyheadedhohoho wrote:

Butrflynet wrote:

nappyheadedhohoho wrote:

Butrflynet wrote:

Part of the problem is that the people who are fanning this are leaving out one very important word in the quote from Michelle's speech. Another part of the word is that when you are reading the text of that speech you don't hear the inflection that was in her voice when she said that word they omitted. When the word and inflection are included, the quote takes on a different meaning.


What's the word that is being omitted?

"For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country. Not just because Barack is doing well, but I think people are hungry for change."

Isn't youtube great???? :wink:

Depends on who is doing the editing of the video uploaded to youtube.

Spin this.

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/02/19/michelle-obama-is-proud-of-her-country/

You see, there's no need to. B/c it's a pointless thing. It is immaterial to whether or not one should vote for Obama or McCain this fall. All it is is an attempt by losers on the right wing - such as yourself - to grasp on to a little scandal, in hopes that it will sway people's opinions. Nobody is even going to remember this in two weeks let alone six months. So I have no idea why you waste your time with crap like this.

Sure is entertaining to watch, though

Cycloptichorn

No one is going to remember this in two weeks let alone six months?

You are beyond naive.

nappyheadedhohoho wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

nappyheadedhohoho wrote:

Butrflynet wrote:

nappyheadedhohoho wrote:

Butrflynet wrote:

Part of the problem is that the people who are fanning this are leaving out one very important word in the quote from Michelle's speech. Another part of the word is that when you are reading the text of that speech you don't hear the inflection that was in her voice when she said that word they omitted. When the word and inflection are included, the quote takes on a different meaning.


What's the word that is being omitted?

"For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country. Not just because Barack is doing well, but I think people are hungry for change."

Isn't youtube great???? :wink:

Depends on who is doing the editing of the video uploaded to youtube.

Spin this.

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/02/19/michelle-obama-is-proud-of-her-country/

You see, there's no need to. B/c it's a pointless thing. It is immaterial to whether or not one should vote for Obama or McCain this fall. All it is is an attempt by losers on the right wing - such as yourself - to grasp on to a little scandal, in hopes that it will sway people's opinions. Nobody is even going to remember this in two weeks let alone six months. So I have no idea why you waste your time with crap like this.

Sure is entertaining to watch, though

Cycloptichorn

No one is going to remember this in two weeks let alone six months?

You are beyond naive.

No, you are merely grasping for straws.

Cycloptichorn

No matter how people interpret what the candidates say during their campaign to win, we must live with the message they share with the electorate. Otherwise, campaigning has no meaning or use. It's a matter of "trust." They can maintain it or lose it by their actions.

Bush lost it a long time ago.