Obama '08?

OCCOM BILL wrote:

maporsche wrote:

sozobe wrote:

The argument is, and? Is that necessarily a bad thing? Couldn't it be a good tool for a good candidate to have, rather than something inherently nefarious?

It could be a good tool.....let's hope so.

People tend to get very invested in the candidate they voted for (especially one's that they are THIS excited about). You've probably wondered for the last 7 years how anyone can still support Bush after all the crap he's done.

I'm worried about Obama becomming OUR Bush.....and many of you are more invested in Obama than I ever remember anyone being invested in Bush.

I don't like this enthusiam in this instance. Extreme enthusiam, ABOUT A POLITICAL CANDIDATE nonetheless, is simply WRONG in my book.

This is so much nonsense. There was never this much enthusiasm over Bush... and you've utterly failed to link the two in any meaningful way. Where Obama is a fantastic speaker; Bush is a friggin moron at the mic. Where does this come from?

Reading comprehension problems Obill?

"I think we're going to have a nominee by middle of March or April." DNC Chairman Howard Dean said. "But if we don't, then we're gonna have to get the candidates together and make some kind of arrangement, because I don't think we can afford to have a brokered convention. That would not be good news for either party."

That's because unlike recent conventions, when the party tickets were firmly established, Obama and Clinton could conceivably end up short of the 2,025 delegates needed to secure the nomination.

As the two candidates battle it out money-wise, the bigger problem may be history itself.

The record shows the more divided the party, the more likely it is to lose in November.

As Dean observed, there have been three divided Democratic conventions in recent decades -- 1968, 1972 and 1980. Democrats lost each time.

Uh oh

How did you get from worrying about Obama's terrific speaking skills, to worrying about him being your Bush? I see absolutely nothing in your post to explain such a logical leap off a cliff.

OCCOM BILL wrote:

How did you get from worrying about Obama's terrific speaking skills, to worrying about him being your Bush? I see absolutely nothing in your post to explain such a logical leap off a cliff.

My mind tends to wander.....

If our candidate is as piss-poor in 7 years as Bush is now, we need to be prepared to castrate him politically and publicly. We cannot afford to "stand by Obama" if he does a poor job.

I have this strange feeling, that will all the investment that people are making into his candidacy, that in the event that he is another Bush (meaning incompetent), as a party we will not be prepared to abandon him (and we'll need to be if he's as bad as Bush).

Your willingness to engage in baseless personal attacks on Obama is bothersome.

There is no questioning Obama's intelligence or his education. He was a Constitutional law professor for goodness sakes.

You have no more reason to question Obama's competence then you do Hillary's

Unless... of course, you are just afraid of change.

maporsche wrote:

I have this strange feeling, that will all the investment that people are making into his candidacy, that in the event that he is another Bush (meaning incompetent), as a party we will not be prepared to abandon him (and we'll need to be if he's as bad as Bush).

Ah, I see. The mysterious strange feeling that this charismatic black man may turn out to be a Trojan Horse for evil. Great reasoning for categorizing him with the least popular politician of our time; who just happens to be practically the complete opposite.

Where does this crap come from?

OCCOM BILL wrote:

maporsche wrote:

I have this strange feeling, that will all the investment that people are making into his candidacy, that in the event that he is another Bush (meaning incompetent), as a party we will not be prepared to abandon him (and we'll need to be if he's as bad as Bush).

Ah, I see. The mysterious strange feeling that this charismatic black man may turn out to be a Trojan Horse for evil. Great reasoning for categorizing him with the least popular politician of our time; who just happens to be practically the complete opposite.

Where does this crap come from?

Stop bring race into this. Is that the only card you can play?

OCCOM BILL wrote:

maporsche wrote:

I have this strange feeling, that will all the investment that people are making into his candidacy, that in the event that he is another Bush (meaning incompetent), as a party we will not be prepared to abandon him (and we'll need to be if he's as bad as Bush).

Ah, I see. The mysterious strange feeling that this charismatic black man may turn out to be a Trojan Horse for evil. Great reasoning for categorizing him with the least popular politician of our time; who just happens to be practically the complete opposite.

Where does this crap come from?

Stop bring race into this. Is that the only card you can play?

OCCOM BILL wrote:

How did you get from worrying about Obama's terrific speaking skills, to worrying about him being your Bush? I see absolutely nothing in your post to explain such a logical leap off a cliff.

My mind tends to wander.....

If our candidate is as piss-poor in 7 years as Bush is now, we need to be prepared to castrate him politically and publicly. We cannot afford to "stand by Obama" if he does a poor job.

I have this strange feeling, that will all the investment that people are making into his candidacy, that in the event that he is another Bush (meaning incompetent), as a party we will not be prepared to abandon him (and we'll need to be if he's as bad as Bush).

I react to the sense that we somehow owe the nomination to Clinton... which I do sense in Lola's and Maporsche's posts.

Lola wrote:

Surely Obama could have found a Latino to tell them how they should vote.

Like "La Opinion," the largest Spanish-language newspaper, who endorsed him? Like Luis Gutirrez, Linda Sanchez, and Xavier Becerra? (All prominent Latino politicians.)

Chances are after the Convention today's bickering between Obama and Clinton supporters will morph into a unified front against McCain and the GOP.