Obama '08?

The last presidential election by the numbers.


Number of States won: Obama: 19 ... McCain: 29 Obama won 28 states McCain only won 22. (Your numbers don't add up to 50 spurt.)

Square miles of land won: Obama: 580,000 ... McCain: 2,427,000

Population of counties won: Obama: 127million ... McCain: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won: Obama: 13.2 ... McCain: 2.1

President-elect Barack Obama actually carried 28 states (and the District of Columbia), not 20 as claimed in the message. Sen. John McCain carried only 22 states, not 30.

The total area of states won by Obama is actually 1,483,702 square miles, significantly more than the 580,000 stated by the e-mail. McCain’s states have an area of 2,310,315 square miles, not the 2,427,000 claimed.

The population of counties carried by Obama is just under 183 million, not the 127 million claimed. McCain carried counties with a total population of just under 119 million, far fewer than claimed in this message.

The murder rate for counties carried by Obama was 6.56 per 100,000 inhabitants, less than half the rate claimed in the message. The rate for counties carried by McCain was 3.60 per 100,000, much higher than claimed in the message.

So the whole point of the broadcast to the people on the debt situation was to set into motion the citizen brigades to fight for Obama, to put pressure on the REPUBS.

Had these speeches been given three or four weeks ago, I think they would have been welcomed as part of the political discourse -- you know, let's have some fisticuffs, each side presses its point of view, appeals to the American people. But to be given on the eve of a possible default, both individuals gave partisan speeches ... and I think each was intending to rally his own base. President Obama was clearly trying to rally his Democratic base to send an avalanche of calls and e-mails, twitters, whatever, to Congress to back the Democratic plans and to bash the Republicans. And John Boehner was trying to do just the opposite.
"And to have that happen on the eve, I think it's good politics, but in terms of getting the national answer in the next eight days, I think it left us farther away from getting an answer. It's going to further divide the country.
"I think probably each fellow came out better with his base, but I think the country is so tired of the political posturing, and people really want leadership that finds answers and gets us of(f) the edge of a cliff."

My take is that Obama has lost the people,

Well Cyclo-- ci. said--"When it's obvious the information that waterboy or any other conservative posts on a2k is bogus, that's because they copied and pasted from FOX News".

Why don't you comment on that "insupportable assertion"? Is it because ci. is a fellow traveller?

With hindsight!! It's your first impulsive move that's revealing though.