Obama '08?

Everything I post has always been what I believe to be the truth

Let us say that there are some laws on the books which don't make sense - they are outdated or don't match modern times

I don't see an apology from you okie.

Like I expected, you wouldn't do the decent thing. You accused me of lying but it turns out that it is you that is the one that has lied during this whole discussion.

In fact this post is a lie okie because you have stated.

okie wrote:

Everything I post has always been what I believe to be the truth

So, you only post the truth but then you deny what you posted and when that lie is pointed out then claim what you posted wasn't really true?

You see okie. It turns out you don't have any decency. You are the lying **** I accused you of being and your parsing of words and your denials show it.

By the way okie..
Do you want to continue in your lies and deny the following?

You have expressed doubts about whether Obama was really born in the US.

You have accused Obama of being a traitor.
You have called for Obama's impeachment on several occassions.

You accused Obama of being a dictator.

You have claimed Obama is destroying the country.

You have agreed with ican that taxes are unconstitutional.

And while you are at it okie..
Could you tell us what the strong feeling Obama has for the US that isn't love or hate? Your inability to come up with one still points to your lying about what emotion you think it is.

Frankly I have no trust in you to do what is right okie. Your record of lying is getting pretty long.

Quote:

Let us say that there are some laws on the books which don't make sense - they are outdated or don't match modern times

Yep. There are laws on the book that are outdated. The Second Amendment is one such law.

I did do the decent thing. When you provided proof, I acknowledged it.

None of my posts are lies

Parados, I think you need to establish some credibility here. You have been throwing out accusations without evidence and misquotes long enough now that in my opinion your credibility is not much higher than plainoldme's here, and that is really getting pretty low.

You are the liar here, parados.

You are the one being dishonest here, Parados, and I think you know it.

I am tired of being misrepresented, misquoted, and having my opinions twisted into something that is apparently part of your imagination.

Put up or shut up, Parados.

You lie as usual.

I do not believe I have ever stated that, so you will need to provide a quote or apologize, if you have decency, parados. I am aware and freely admit that I believe Obama is a dictator wannabe, that he does have the personality traits perhaps that are typical of dictators. However, we all know that Obama is president, not a dictator, at least not yet.

That is what he wants to do. He is another dictator in the making.

Obama has proposed a civilian national security force as powerful and well funded as the military, obviously a Nazi-like or dictator friendly idea.

I think he must believe he is already a dictator. He is acting like it already, "demanding" stuff that is really pretty impractical if not foolish.

I think perhaps certain taxes might be unconstitutional in the manner that they are enforced, but no, I do not think "taxes are unconstitutional," which implies all taxing would be unconstitutional.

U.S. District Court Judge George Steeh ruled Thursday that the so-called individual mandate — a requirement President Barack Obama opposed during the presidential campaign but later embraced as part of sweeping changes — falls squarely within Congress’s ability under the Constitution to regulate interstate commerce.

The decision whether to purchase insurance or to attempt to pay for health care out of pocket is plainly economic,” Steeh wrote in a 20-page opinion. “These decisions, viewed in the aggregate, have clear and direct impacts on health care providers, taxpayers and the insured population, who ultimately pay for the care provided to those who go without insurance.”

The Supreme Court has not handed down a concise definition of just what qualifies as “commerce,” but even ultraconservative Justice Antonin Scalia acknowledged in a case called Gonzales v. Raich that Congress has sweeping authority to regulate “economic activity” under the Commerce Clause. There is a long line of cases holding that Congress has broad power to enact laws that substantially affect prices, marketplaces, and commercial transactions, which support Justice Scalia’s conclusion. A law requiring all Americans to hold health insurance does all of these things.

The very same Gonzales v. Raich case establishes that Congress can regulate even tiny insurance providers who serve only a handful of local residents because such local activity substantially affects a multistate market. Raich held that a federal ban on medical marijuana should apply even to small-time growers who give their product away to local residents. Because small-time growers compete in a marketplace with major interstate dealers of marijuana, a local grower’s decision to offer free cannabis to a few patients influences the price of marijuana in the interstate marketplace, and this effect on interstate prices is enough to bring a local grower’s actions within the Commerce Clause’s umbrella.

Under the Constitution of the USA, the federal government is supposed to be
a government of specifically enumerated powers. The 10th Amendment states: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

COMMANDERING THE STATE LEGISLATURES
ObamaCare requires the states to pay for part of the program – which is part of the budget trickery, Obama, Pelosi, and Reid used to make ObamaCare appear less costly than it actually is.

FORCING CITIZENS TO BUY A PRODUCT
ObamaCare forces citizens, under penalty of the law, to purchase health insurance. This provisdion is antithetical to liberty.

FRAUDULENT BUDGET NUMBERS
To secure passage of ObamaCare, it was necessary to put out fraudulent budget numbers to the American people concerning its likely cost.

UNCONSTITUTIONAL PROPERTY SEIZURES
Not satisfied with placing banks, insurance companies, and the car industry under federal control, President Obama is now preparing to seize huge tracts of land throughout the American West.

REFUSING TO ENFORCE THE LAW ON UNION ACCOUNTABILITY
Labor unions in America receive special favored treatment under the law. You can’t work in some states without being a member of a labor union, which requires members to pay dues to the labor union. In return for this special favored status in American law, labor unions are supposed to itemize and report their expenses.

But the Obama Administration has openly announced it will no longer enforce these disclosure requirements

REFUSING TO ENFORCE THE LAW CONCERNING HOMOSEXUALS IN THE MILITARY
On March 25, 2010, the Obama administration announced that it would no longer enforce the 1993 law (Section 654, Title 10, U.S.C.), which states that homosexuals are not eligible for military service.

JUSTIFYING HIS IMPEACHMENT
There is every indication that the American people are alarmed by wholesale destruction of our Constitutional Republic they see taking place right now by President Obama and this Congress. So we will have a brand new Congress after November 2, 2010 – hopefully one that has a greater appreciation fo America’s heritage of liberty, AND WILL IMPEACH OBAMA..

If we could just have Bush back, what a relief that would be.

The financial difficulties were caused by Media Cyclo. That's why they are blaming everybody else.