plainoldme
 
  0  
Mon 13 Sep, 2010 08:51 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Has okie still got that Soros bee in his bonnet?
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plainoldme
 
  0  
Mon 13 Sep, 2010 08:53 pm
@ican711nm,
Not only do we not give a tinker's damn for Saul Alinsky, who is busy pushing up daisies, we also don't give one for George Soros.

How about Leo Strauss? Now, there is a villain for you.
plainoldme
 
  0  
Mon 13 Sep, 2010 08:55 pm
@ican711nm,
If you judge people by their actions, let me clue thee in: Saul Alinsky has been dead for 38 years. He is not active.
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plainoldme
 
  0  
Mon 13 Sep, 2010 10:02 pm
I am going to write to George Soros and send him a link to this inanity. I will then ask him if he worships Saul Alinsky. I bet Soros will have to google the long dead Alinsky.
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parados
 
  4  
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 08:11 am
@okie,
So what is the strong emotion okie?

You keep avoiding the question. Can't you be honest with us? Why do you keep lying. It's obvious to us that you are hiding your beliefs for political reasons. There certainly is a long track record of your calling Obama a Marxist and a dictator and not loving America and trying to cause America's ruin. But when asked what strong emotion you think Obama feels toward America, you avoid the question.

"Morality starts at home, with us as individuals, and as we go, so goes the nation." So, why don't you start with being honest okie? What is the strong emotion that Obama feels toward America? You claimed he doesn't love the country. You claimed he has strong feelings toward America. So what is that strong feeling you claim he has if it isn't hate?

I think it's fair that we judge you the same way you judge Obama, don't you okie? That means your refusal to answer the question about which emotion you were referring to is evidence that you were referring to hate. Of course, you could use the same standard for Obama and post evidence of his being a Marxist by using exact quotes. But you won't do that, so that means I have no reason to post quotes from you okie. I can simply refer to you as a lying sack of **** and that is more than enough evidence based on your standards.
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djjd62
 
  2  
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 08:19 am
we're in the middle of municipal elections here, everywhere i go i see ELECT this person or that person for this office or that

i want to put up a sign on the lawn which reads

ELECT NOBODY

IT ONLY ENCOURAGES THEM
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 10:12 am
@djjd62,
That's one way to start from "ground zero."
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ican711nm
 
  -2  
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 11:58 am
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:
It was a tragedy that Bush, Sr., bailed out of the plane leaving his crew to die in the crash. A pilot is supposed to be the last person out of the plane.

This is a damn lie!
ican711nm
 
  -3  
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 12:05 pm
@plainoldme,
You knowingly or unknowingly are emulating what Saul Alinsky said and wrote, and you are emulating what George Soros has and is saying and writing.

Quote:
Saul Alinsky said and wrote:
->The radical is not a reformer of the system but its would-be destroyer;
->The revolutionary’s purpose is to undermine the system;
->The radical is building his own kingdom, a kingdom of heaven on earth;
->The radical underrmines the system by taking from the haves and giving it to the have nots;
->The most basic principle for radicals is lie to opponents;
->The issue is never the issue;
->The issue is always the revolution;
->The radical organizer does not have a fixed truth—truth to him is relative and changing;
->The stated cause is never the real cause, but only an occasion to advance the real cause;
->The real cause is the accumulation of power to make the revolution.

djjd62
 
  2  
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 12:09 pm
@ican711nm,
ican711nm wrote:

Advocate wrote:
It was a tragedy that Bush, Sr., bailed out of the plane leaving his crew to die in the crash. A pilot is supposed to be the last person out of the plane.

This is a damn lie!


well you can't deny that this line is true
It was a tragedy that Bush, Sr., bailed out of the plane
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talk72000
 
  1  
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 12:16 pm
@ican711nm,
It is no lie...

http://www.rense.com/general47/hero.htm

Quote:
I was in the Pacific at the same time as Bush and flew the same Avenger airplane. A small room in the rear of the Avenger was occupied by the radioman. The gunner went through the room to get up to his turret. Both wore a harness to which a chest type parachute could be attached - The gunner had to come down out of the turret to put on his chute.

Bush said he was hit by anti-aircraft fire and the plane caught fire. Bush's squadron was primarily used for patrol and saw very little combat. Bush claimed he warned the crew, over the intercom, to get out - got no answer and he could not yell back because of the armor plate behind him.

He decided they were dead, so he bailed out. First, he failed to say he switched his mike from radio to intercom. Then being blocked by the armor is a bold faced lie! There was a sizable gap on either side of the armor. I used this space to call to my crew several times.

The tough old Avenger simply did not catch fire!! It had self sealing gas tanks. In six months of operations, I never saw an Avenger catch fire. If the oil or hydraulic systems were damaged, great clouds of white smoke would stream out of the planhe. I have no idea how many times i saw planes returning to their carriers trailing smoke but never a fire.

What really happened? It was the pilots job to hold the plane level and slow it down so the crew could get out. Most certainly, the radioman was helping the gunner with his chute when Bush panicked and left the plane. Then the plane rolled into a dive giving the crew no chance. This story went through the fleet and all the Avenger pilots i knew were shocked at what they heard. I heard speculation of a Courts-Martial.

Bush was very young. By his own admission, he reacted under stress. It is terrifying to have the cockpit fill with smoke. Possibly, he can be excused for reacting to fear and accepting it as another war time tragedy - but he has been glorified on the History channel, a book is being published, and worst of all, an aircraft carrier is to be named for him. This is unbelievable!! Bush performed badly and was certainly no hero.

John S. McDonald
mysteryman
 
  1  
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 12:32 pm
@talk72000,
Whoever wrote that article should have checked his facts more carefully.

According to the AAR (After Action Report) submitted by witnesses, BEFORE Bush was returned to his squadron, 1 other person bailed out when Bush did.
However, that persons parachute failed to open.

http://www.footnote.com/page/2538_usn_torpedo_squadron_51/

Quote:
:Lt Bush was piloting the third plane over the target. Bush's plane was hit in the engine shortly after final push at 8,000 feet. In spite of this hit which caused his engine to smoke and catch on fir, Lt Bush continued in his dive, releasing his bombs on the radio station at 85.6-50.6 to score damaging hits. Ens. Moore, in the 4th plane likewise dropped his bombs on latter installations.after releasing his bombs, Lt Bush turned sharply to the east to clear the island of Chichi Jima, smoke and flames enveloping his engine and spreading aft as he did so, and his plane losing altitude ... At a point approximately 9 miles bearing 045 degrees from Minami Jima, Bush and one other person were seen to bail out from about 3,000 ft. Bush's chute opened and he landed safely in water, inflated his raft, and paddled farther away from Chichi Jima. ... (Bush has not yet been returned to squadron by rescue sub, so this information is incomplete). The rescue sub promptly affected rescue of Lt Bush who was unhurt, plans of VG-20 remaining over Bush's raft to protect him. It should be noted that VT-51 has established a doctrine, whenever wind and other conditions permit, to make bombing runs on targets near water so as to retire over the water. This puts pilot and crew in position for water rescue in event of forced landing suc as that described herein.


Also, there is nothing in any of the reports that states his plane rolled over, so I cant help but wonder at the veracity of the writer of the article you linked to.
talk72000
 
  1  
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 12:49 pm
@mysteryman,
Bush has been in the government and the CIA very long and had ample time to re-write records. They are known to do that as with GWB's record in the National Guard.

The first Iraq war was started on false reports of brutality against Iraqis.
http://www.prwatch.org/books/tsigfy10.html

For the Iraq War of 2001, the same:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22794451/

Quote:
A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.

The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses."
mysteryman
 
  1  
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 12:56 pm
@talk72000,
How long have you been this paranoid?
Do you really think that official records, documented at the pentagon, the national archives, and in St Louis are all fake?

And how would they fake the testimony of eyewitnesses?

I think your hatred of the Bush family is making you see things that arent there.
talk72000
 
  1  
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 12:58 pm
@mysteryman,
Quote:
A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.

The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses."
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plainoldme
 
  -1  
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 02:28 pm
@ican711nm,
You use outsized type when addressing me again and I will search you down and punch your lights out.
plainoldme
 
  0  
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 02:30 pm
@talk72000,
Barbara flunked out of Smith and george bailed out of a plane. Sterling examples of American leadership!
talk72000
 
  0  
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 02:48 pm
@plainoldme,
Flunking out of an educational institute is no crime. Bailing out of a plane before his crew is dereliction of dutyand dishonorable conduct unbecoming of an officer.

Did you know Bill Gates and Steve Jobs didn'tcomplete their degrees to start Microsoft and Apple corporations respectively?
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ican711nm
 
  -4  
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 03:44 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
You use outsized type when addressing me again and I will search you down and punch your lights out.

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Echos!

You use outsized type when addressing me again and I will search you down and punch your lights out.

You use outsized type when addressing me again and I will search you down and punch your lights out.

You use outsized type when addressing me again and I will search you down and punch your lights out.

You use outsized type when addressing me again and I will search you down and punch your lights out.


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talk72000
 
  2  
Tue 14 Sep, 2010 03:45 pm
@ican711nm,
So you are up to your Massagato repeat postings again.
 

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