@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
Quote:The only insult is you with your insult on our intelligence.
Because this thread, the one on American conservatism and the one on the economy are basically interchangeable, I am not certain which one has an okie post about what sounds like a self-sufficient but basically isolated -- perhaps, ghettoized or apartheid area -- rural area where there was a Black university.
pom, there you go making unsubstantiated statements. To be honest, I never regularly visited the community of Langston. All I know is we played them at the first university I attended for two years.
Quote:okie has fond memories of the school, so he imagines the people are probably conservative.
I told you that I did not know about them for sure, but that it is common for rural or farming communities to be more conservative. Also business owners are often more conservative, and Langston would have both. I do not know now whether the community and the university are more integrated or not, but I am only aware that back in the 50's and 60's, I don't think it was. Now, pom, you can try to manufacture something derogatory out of that to direct toward me, I don't care, that is what you do, but I am only stating what I remember.
Quote:The interesting thing about that post is that okie there admits that he went to more than one college. Did he flunk out of his first or second school? Did he have to attend a junior college in order to be admitted to a four year school? He says he never took remedial classes, but, there were none during okie's years are uni. However, junior colleges did function as a proving ground for students unable to gain admission to a four year school.
I did not flunk out. I transferred to a bigger school, which was Oklahoma State University, because a friend of mine also majoring in the same thing convinced me that we had a better chance at getting better jobs with a degree from there. The first college was a four year college offering the full degrees as I wanted, but it was much smaller, perhaps what would be part of the NAIA group of schools now as opposed to the NCAA. My friend turned out to probably be right, I did get a good job upon graduation. As I have told you before, I graduated with a major in geology and a minor in math. I was going to go onto graduate school but decided to go with the job, because it was what I considered a dream job at the time.
Quote:I wonder if the apartheid school still exists.
You can make snide remarks, but it only shows your own ignorance. The colleges I attended had many blacks attending, while Langston was almost exclusively black. I have no idea if it was due to some kind of official policy of theirs, sort of a reverse discrimination situtation or what, but I doubt it would exist now and I would guess it is integrated. It might not be now, but it would be more due to tradition I would guess than it would be segregation factors. To be clear about this, I commend that university for operating a good institution.
As an aside that goes along with the above subject, a couple of years ago, I attended with my family including grandkids, a music festival in one of the towns of Oklahoma, where marching bands compete in a parade around the square of the town. I was told to expect it because a certain school out of Oklahoma City that had mostly black students because of the community population there, I was told that the band would probably take honors again as they usually did. When they came down the street, they were not only good at what they did, they knew it, and they put on a show with some extra jazz to the music and the marching. Also most of their musical selections were inspiring and patriotic in nature. You could tell the entire crowd was not only very enthusiastic but appreciative, with rousing rounds of clapping. If others did not have shivers going down their back as I did, I would be surprised.
So, yes, some towns and communities were segregated back in the early 50's until it began to change more and more, and thankfully it did. You can thank great men like Dwight D. Eisenhower for much of that. Common sense would tell you, however, that tradition itself continues to influence that concentrations of black populations in various communities as they existed in the past. That is where families grew up and therefore they tend to settle in those same areas. I would imagine that Langston would be an example of that.
pom, I have tried to provide a courteous and informative explanation of what I experienced and knew as a young person. Everything I post has always been what I believe to be the truth, and this post is no different. I will be interested to see if you respond with the same courtesy or if you go back to your pattern of insults.
