MontereyJack
 
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Wed 23 Jun, 2010 12:21 pm


okie says
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@plainoldme,

You may find it interesting, but I don't, and I doubt very many other people do.


Gee, okie, studies of sexual behavior in America say that:
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In their 1977 Redbook Report on Female Sexuality, C. Tavris and S. Sadd found that 93% of wives responding reported having engaged in cunnilingus and 91% had engaged in fellatio. They concluded from this response that, "Today it is clear that if the sexual revolution has occurred anywhere, it is in the practice and acceptance of oral sex. Among people under age twenty-five, it is virtually a universal part of the sexual relationship."

P. Blumsteln and P. Schwartz have reported similar statistics—93% of heterosexual couples had engaged in cunnilingus and 90% had engaged in fellatio. See also W. Masters, V. Johnson, and R. Kolodny, Human Sexualily 393 (1985).


So either Texans are completely different from the rest of the country and just aren't gettin' any, or the Texas GOP has just adopted a plank to criminalize virtually every adult in the state.

I find that interesting, okie, don't you?

I'd suggest, okie, that you actually read the GOP platform. ican maintains conservatives support individual liberty. The TX GOP platform is probably the most ANTI- individual-liberty document I've seen in years.
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okie
 
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Wed 23 Jun, 2010 12:24 pm
@MontereyJack,
No, I do not find it interesting. I think its only interesting to deviants and extreme liberal nutcases.
Cycloptichorn
 
  4  
Wed 23 Jun, 2010 12:25 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

No, I do not find it interesting. I think its only interesting to deviants and extreme liberal nutcases.


If that's the case, why is it included in the TX GOP platform?

Cycloptichorn
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MontereyJack
 
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Wed 23 Jun, 2010 12:30 pm
okie says
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No, I do not find it interesting. I think its only interesting to deviants and extreme liberal nutcases.


So you're saying that 90-some percent of Texans are deviants or extreme liberal nutcases, okie?
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ican711nm
 
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Wed 23 Jun, 2010 01:02 pm
@plainoldme,
A majjority of those present in the House (when the vote is taken) are required to impeach Obama.
That is, a majority of those present in the House (when the vote is taken) are required to indict Obama.


A two-thirds majority of those present in the Senate (when the vote is taken) are required to remove Obama from office.
That is, a two-thirds majority of those present in the Senate (when the vote is taken) are required to convict Obama.
MontereyJack
 
  4  
Wed 23 Jun, 2010 01:11 pm
which means basically that you don't stand a chance of either impeaching him or removing him, ican, which is fortunate, since Obamanomics is working and has brought us out of the Great Recession.
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parados
 
  2  
Wed 23 Jun, 2010 01:24 pm
@okie,
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because different people looking at the same evidence come to two totally different conclusions based upon simple logic

What different people? Hannity? What evidence did he actually look at?

I challenge you to find one non partisan group that reached the conclusions you have been saying should be reached.
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plainoldme
 
  1  
Wed 23 Jun, 2010 01:33 pm
@okie,
I don't know what this refers to.
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plainoldme
 
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Wed 23 Jun, 2010 01:46 pm
@okie,
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If Annenberg was so conservative originally, how come Bill Ayers and Obama were involved with the board of the Annenberg Challenge in Chicago?


If he were so leftist as you say, why was he Nixon's close friend?

Furthermore, Obama is a pretty centrist guy at best. When he was a student at Harvard Law, why did Charles Ogletree think him a Republican?

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es the same Bill Ayers of the Weather Underground that had as its mission to overthrow the United States of America and was involved in the bombing of the Pentagon.


The Tea Totalitarians want to overthrow the government and Tim McVee bombed the federal building in Oklahoma City. By your logic, they are left of center. Obama did not mention Ayers' name although the men knew each other.

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In regard to Factcheck.org, there have been many times I have referred to it, and have found their conclusions to be somewhat out of phase, not totally logical, and probably biased


But, you almost never are "in phase." Your knowledge of history is slight and what you know is inaccurate. Your knowledge of politics is without connection to the real world. I told you that my first degree was in political science and journalism but you seem to think that no one with such a degree knows anything about politics. I also told you that I would read your Eisenhower post if you would remove your read highlighting. This is largely because it is impossible to read read highlighting and because you would not have accented the germane sections.

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ow, I would not dismiss Factcheck.org as totally useless, but I am just pointing out that it is far from perfect, and is probably skewed to the left, in part due to who is currently funding and running the operation.


You are the first person I have encountered to think FactCheck is anything but neutral. However, you are confused about what is left and what is right.






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plainoldme
 
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Wed 23 Jun, 2010 01:48 pm
@okie,
The point is, as Monterey Jack told you, that the GOP in Texas is contradicting its personal liberties stand.

Therefore, the deviants concerned here are members of the Texas GOP who are lying.
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plainoldme
 
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Wed 23 Jun, 2010 01:51 pm
@ican711nm,
So, in other words, there is no choice, that impeachment is an empty ritual. Does that mean that each Representative must count all the votes and vote only in favor of impeachment until the majority is attained? And is that a simple majority or a 2/3rds majority?
plainoldme
 
  2  
Wed 23 Jun, 2010 01:57 pm
@okie,
Oh, so you were talking about the Texas GOP plank hoping to outlaw oral sex.

There was an anti-oral sex law on the books in Texas which was overthrown by the SC in 1993. Should the GOP succeed in reinstating such a law, how would it be enforced? Would Texas Rangers be posted in people's homes at night? Would law enforcement officers do to average citizens in Texas what they did to welfare recipients long ago: break down their doors in the wee hours to make certain that no men were in bed with the women?

How is that enhancing individual rights?
dyslexia
 
  1  
Wed 23 Jun, 2010 02:01 pm
@plainoldme,
Okie volunteers for the Tejas Rangers.(night patrol)
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realjohnboy
 
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Wed 23 Jun, 2010 03:06 pm
Kesha Rogers, the winner of a Democrat primary for Congress in Texas, is interesting. She is a 33 year old African-American who won 53% of the votes against two opponents who split the remaining 47%.
She has allied herself with the Lyndon Larouche Youth Movement. I don't know much about them. I vaguely recall they are against globalization and our membership in the UN.
Her district in the suburbs of Houston includes many NASA workers, upset with Obama due to his restructuring of our space mission. One of her campaign slogans was "Save NASA. Impeach Obama." Another was "Send me to Congress, and we can send our children to Mars."
She also toted around a poster of Obama with a Hitler-esque moustache drawn on with a Sharpie.
It should also be noted that this was an open primary with no proof of party membership required.
There are several A2Kers in the area. I will ask them for comments and will add this contest to the ones we are watching on the other thread.
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ican711nm
 
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Wed 23 Jun, 2010 04:21 pm
@plainoldme,
Try again, plainoldme!

A majority of those present in the House (when the impeachment vote is taken) is required to impeach Obama.
That is, a majority of those present in the House (when the impeachment vote is taken) is required to indict Obama.


A two-thirds majority of those present in the Senate (when the removal vote is taken) is required to remove Obama from office.
That is, a two-thirds majority of those present in the Senate (when the removal vote is taken) is required to convict Obama.

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Constitution Article II.
Section 4. The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.


plainoldme
 
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Wed 23 Jun, 2010 04:27 pm
@ican711nm,
You continually say this:

When a bill of impeachment is presented before the House of Representatives, the majority MUST VOTE YES.

You are closer this time to what you are trying to say which is:

In order for a president to be impeached, a majority of the House must vote in favor of impeachment.
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ican711nm
 
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Wed 23 Jun, 2010 04:37 pm
@ican711nm,
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html
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Article I.
Section 2. (last paragraph of Section 2.)
The House of Representatives shall choose their speaker and other officers; and shall have the sole power of impeachment.

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Article I.
Section 3. (next to last paragraph of Section 3.)
The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments. When sitting for that purpose, they shall be on oath or affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present.
ican711nm
 
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Wed 23 Jun, 2010 04:44 pm
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Cancelled Health Plans, Cancelled Health Coverage, Higher Health Costs, Higher Federal Deficits: A 3-Month Checkup on ObamaCare
(from John Carter)

Three months after passage of the Democrats' wildly unpopular government healthcare takeover, nearly everything the Obama Administration said about the bill has turned out to be false, while the dire warnings of opponents were apparent understatements.

“Major U.S. employers like Caterpillar, John Deere, Verizon, and AT&T are considering dropping employee health plans; the Obama Administration has confirmed that two-out-of-three families will lose their current plan, smaller health insurers are shutting down, there’s not enough money to fund the high-risk pool, and we’re adding another $115 billion to the federal deficit that was concealed until after the bill became law,” says House Republican Conference Secretary John Carter. “Today is the three-month checkup on Obamacare, and the diagnosis is that the patient is dead as a doornail. The first duty of the new Congress in January must be repeal of this healthcare disaster.”
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Wed 23 Jun, 2010 04:57 pm
@ican711nm,
The health-care reform bill is currently polling at higher levels of approval than any previous time; so your correspondent is a little incorrect to call it 'wildly unpopular.'

Not only that, but the decision to drop health plans - in order to maximize profits - is a grossly irresponsible corporate decision, and not one that can be laid at the feet of Obama or the government. It is entirely an internal decision on the part of greedy executives in these companies.

Cycloptichorn
plainoldme
 
  1  
Wed 23 Jun, 2010 05:04 pm
@ican711nm,
But that is not what you wrote.
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