ican711nm
 
  0  
Thu 27 May, 2010 08:33 am
Here is more evidence that the Odem (i.e., Obamademocrats) are lying thieving gangsters working to reduce our Liberty, our Constitutional Government, and our Capitalist Economy.

Quote:
Once again, Congress is rushing to pass two massive spending bills that include more than $250 billion in new unfunded spending.

And they are pressing for votes THIS WEEK before they run out of town for their week-long Memorial Day break.

According to the Washington Post, "senior
Democratic aides said [the House spending bill]
could approach $200 billion, most of it unpaid
for by new revenue."

Meanwhile in the Senate, an original request
for $30 billion in emergency war funding has
already doubled and may grow to over $80 billion
if a $23 billion public school teacher bailout
is added as expected.

The two spending bills will total more than $250 billion -- and Congress and the President are once again on a mad-dash to spend, spend, spend.

Sen. Tom Coburn and members of Congress from each side of the political aisle are taking a stand saying that new spending must be offset with corresponding spending cuts.

But even with deep concerns, House and Senate leaders are aggressively pushing for a vote this week calling it "must-pass legislation" and adding it would "shore up support among key constituencies heading into the November elections."

We shall lawfully remove the Odem from our federal government.

Cycloptichorn
 
  2  
Thu 27 May, 2010 09:27 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:
To put it simply, there is no substance to these allegations at all. It is simply a nakedly political attempt to influence the race in PA by Republicans.

Cycloptichorn

So as has already been pointed out, if there is no substance to these allegations, it should be a simple matter for Sestak and the Whitehouse, including whoever in the whitehouse made the offer, simply come clean and provide all the harmless details. Since there is nothing to the story or no crime involved, it should take just a few minutes to explain it with the facts and make the story go away. After all, Obama promised an open and transparent administration, so simply clearing the air should be a simple matter and a matter that Obama should be extremely anxious to take care of. After all, we all know Obama always does what he promises, and is 100% honest, right everybody? After all, cyclops seems to think so, and if somebody as smart and intellectual from Berkeley as cyclops seems to be, how can anyone doubt it, especially a dumb old okie? How many times do I need to bow at your feet and beg foregiveness for doubting you, cyclops? It should have been obvious to me, that it was a naked political attempt by Republicans that caused this. It is always evil Republicans fault, how did I forget such a basic truth. I beg your firegiveness, cyclops.


Don't be an ass, speech like this last paragraph neither moves the conversation forward nor proves your point.

I don't think job offers are normally considered to be public business; but, I would agree with you in this case, that there certainly would be no harm in discussing it further, because nothing wrong was done at all.

It's really hilarious to see you get all huffy about Hatch act violations, seeing as you never said one damned thing when Bush and Karl Rove were doing similar things and intervening in elections all across the country, for years. It's so transparently fake, this outrage on the part of the right wing, it's not even funny.

And does that scream 'character' to you?

Cycloptichorn
Cycloptichorn
 
  2  
Thu 27 May, 2010 09:35 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Too funny

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae30/rte148/hayakawa2.jpg?t=1274969769

I guess you guys think Ronaldus Magnus was wrong for doing this as well?

Cycloptichorn
okie
 
  -1  
Thu 27 May, 2010 10:02 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Actually cyclops, I will give you credit, you scored a credible punch. I think similar stuff has been going on for a very long time, along the lines of if somebody would take the fall for the good of the party, just perhaps a job might be found for that person down the line a ways. And actually I do not think such is unreasonable in the world of politics, if it is not too blatant or carried to the extreme. I think the ethics of doing such things kind of crosses a line at a certain point when the practice becomes too frequent, too heavy handed, and perhaps too specific and grandiose in terms of the job or reward that is offered. I think it largely depends upon how the situation is posed, such as "we will give you this certain fantastic job if you will drop out and support candidate X instead," as opposed to "if after you think upon your candidacy and what you believe is the best decision for you, and you happen to decide to drop out of the race, maybe a job could come up down the road in our administration, no guarantees, but a possibility."

So, cyclops, I think it depends upon the language used and how specific the offer is. In other words, the devil is in the details in regard to whether a possible crime has been committed. That is why this Sestak case might be a good test case, because Sestak himself made the original allegation of the crime, did he not? I say let the process roll and make this a good test case, let the people testify as to what happened and exactly what was offered, who offered, and exactly what was said. After all, we have at least one law addressing activitites such as this, so we need to enforce it.

To conclude, cyclops, I will admit you make a valid point that similar stuff has probably been going on fairly widespread, but just because you dug up an article about Reagan making an offer, it doesn't justify the activity now if it is blatant. I would imagine every president in history has done similar stuff, but it seems that Obama has stepped in it big time now, because it seems to personafy a pattern of heavyhandedness and dictatorial attitude over the party that surpasses what would be reasonable and perhaps acceptable. We already know the tough reputation that Rahm "dead fish" has to ram his agenda through, and I think also that Obama harbors a dictatorial attitude, so this sort of thing needs to be dealt with in my opinion.
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mysteryman
 
  1  
Thu 27 May, 2010 10:03 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Yes,I do think he was wrong then, just like I think Obama was wrong this time.
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georgeob1
 
  1  
Thu 27 May, 2010 10:04 am
@Cycloptichorn,
I think the significant legal difference here is the apparent absence in the alleged Reagan offer of any reference to a specific government post.

However, thought the difference is significant legally, it doesn't amount to much in terms of common sense. There is a great deal of hypocrisy and political posturing on both sides of this largely phony issue.
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djjd62
 
  3  
Thu 27 May, 2010 10:10 am
@okie,
okie wrote:
By the way, English expert, you are supposed to capitalize proper names.


i'll capitalize a politicians name when i feel they deserve the respect

so basically never
okie
 
  -1  
Thu 27 May, 2010 10:31 am
@djjd62,
Thats fine, djjd62. I was just needling plainoldme in regard to her bragging about her English expertise and prowess being so far superior to people like me that have the nerve to disagree with her politically, and to think an okie could claim to be up to her level of writing, that was apparently just too much for her to take. So I had to note her failure in the simplest of English rules, that of capitalizing proper names. And if anyone has a proper name, Sarah Palin does, right pom?
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ican711nm
 
  -2  
Thu 27 May, 2010 11:39 am
Here is more evidence that the Odem (i.e., Obamademocrats) are lying thieving gangsters working to reduce our Liberty, our Constitutional Government, and our Capitalist Economy.

Quote:
Carter Calls for 25,000 Armed National Guard to Border

(WASHINGTON, DC) " The only thing President Obama's deployment of 1,200 National Guard to the southern border will accomplish is press coverage for the Administration on border security, according to House Republican Conference Secretary John Carter.

"The President's proposal is about 24,000 men short of what's needed," says Carter. "And they need to be armed with orders to shoot if fired on. Many of our National Guard are combat veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan, and they know exactly how to put an end to these killings on our border. The next time a gunman raises a rifle in our direction these guys are ready and able to light ‘em up. Once that happens a couple times we’ll start to see some law and order again.”

The former Texas judge says assigning 1,200 troops to 2,000 miles of lawless border is a non-starter. “6,000 National Guard wasn’t enough when President Bush sent them in 2007, and 1,200 will do nothing other than provide the current Administration with a photo op.”

“President Wilson sent 100,000 National Guard in 1916 when violence spilled across our southern border under his watch, and got the situation back under control,” says Carter. “25,000 is a good number to start with now, but to suggest just 1200 shows a very disingenuous position on securing our border against armed drug gangs shooting our border patrol officers and now even American civilians on their own property. Seems like the only securing going on here is the political security of Presidents Obama and Calderon. We need to start putting the security of the American people back in the picture.”

We shall lawfully remove the Odem from our federal government.

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ican711nm
 
  -3  
Thu 27 May, 2010 01:08 pm
BELIEVE IT OR NOT!
Quote:

How Obama got into Harvard
________________________________________
by Jack Cashill for World Net Daily - May 27, 2010
1:00 am Eastern

© 2010
Two years ago I inadvertently began my exploration of the authorship of Barack Obama's 1995 memoir, "Dreams From My Father," with an inquiry into how Obama got into Harvard Law School in 1988.

In the summer of 2008, I was tipped to a story that the media were scrupulously ignoring. It involved the venerable African-American entrepreneur and politico Percy Sutton.

A Manhattan borough president for 12 years and a credible candidate for mayor of New York City in 1977, Sutton had appeared in late March 2008 on a local New York City show called "Inside City Hall."

When asked about Obama by the show's host, Dominic Carter, the octogenarian Sutton calmly and lucidly explained that he had been "introduced to [Obama] by a friend."

The friend's name was Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, and the introduction had taken place about 20 years prior. Sutton described al-Mansour as "the principal adviser to one of the world's richest men." The billionaire in question was Saudi prince Al-Waleed bin Talal.

According to Sutton, al-Mansour had asked him to "please write a letter in support of [Obama] ... a young man that has applied to Harvard." Sutton had friends at Harvard and gladly did so.

Three months before the election it should have mattered that a respected black political figure had publicly announced that a crazed anti-Semite like al-Mansour, backed by an equally bonkers Saudi billionaire, had been guiding Obama's career perhaps for the last 20 years, but the story died a quick and unnatural death.


The definitive documentary on the red-hot eligibility story: "The Question of Eligibility: Is Barack Obama's presidency constitutionally legitimate?"

The books that might have shed some light on this incident have not done so. John Heilemann and Mark Halperin's comprehensive look at the 2008 campaign, "Game Change," does not so much as mention Percy Sutton.

Nor does David Remnick. His new book, "The Bridge," stands as the authoritative book on Obama's "life and rise," but he only inadvertently addresses the question of how Obama got into Harvard Law.

The reader learns from Remnick that Obama was an "unspectacular" student in his two years at Columbia and at every stop before that, going back to grade school.

A Northwestern University prof who wrote a letter of reference for Obama reinforces the point, telling Remnick, "I don't think [Obama] did very well in college." As to Obama's LSAT scores, Jimmy Hoffa's body will be unearthed before those are.

How such an indifferent student got into a law school whose applicants' LSAT scores typically track between 98 to 99 percentile and whose GPAs range between 3.8 and 4.0 is a subject Remnick avoids in the section of his book dealing with Obama's admission.

In his 2007 book, "Obama: From Promise to Power," David Mendell is likewise silent on the mystery admission. This surprises because Mendell, a Chicago Tribune reporter who saw more of Obama than Michelle often did, writes objectively and intimately about Obama's ascendancy.

Mendell traces Obama's sudden itch to become a lawyer to the model of the recently deceased Chicago Mayor Harold Washington, but Washington went to Northwestern's very respectable law school in Evanston, Ill.

The thought doesn't cross Obama's mind. In "Dreams," he limits his choices to "Harvard, Yale, Stanford." Writes Mendell as casually as if the honor were deserved, "Obama would soon be accepted at the most prestigious law school in the nation."

Whether or not Sutton helped Obama get into Harvard, Michelle Obama's experience suggests that he could not have gotten in without that help.

"Told by counselors that her SAT scores and her grades weren't good enough for an Ivy League school," writes Christopher Andersen in "Barack and Michelle," "Michelle applied to Princeton and Harvard anyway."

Sympathetic biographer Liza Mundy writes, "Michelle frequently deplores the modern reliance on test scores, describing herself as a person who did not test well."

She did not write well, either. Au contraire. One of my correspondents, a college drop-out, found Michelle's senior thesis at Princeton online and concluded, "I could have written it in sophomore English class." Mundy charitably describes it as "dense and turgid."

The less charitable Christopher Hitchens observes, "To describe [the thesis] as hard to read would be a mistake; the thesis cannot be 'read' at all, in the strict sense of the verb. This is because it wasn't written in any known language."

Hitchens exaggerates only a little. The following summary statement by Michelle captures her unfamiliarity with many of the rules of grammar and most of logic:
The study inquires about the respondents' motivations to benefit him/herself, and the following social groups: the family, the Black community, the White community, God and church, The U.S. society, the non-White races of the world, and the human species as a whole.
Michelle even typed badly. Still, she was admitted to and graduated from Harvard Law. One almost feels sorry for her. She was in so far over her head that the anxiety had to have been corrosive.

Obama was sufficiently self-deluding " some would say narcissistic " that he felt little of that anxiety. Later in his book, Remnick lets slip into the record a revealing letter Obama had written while president of the Harvard Law Review:
I must say, however, that as someone who has undoubtedly benefited from affirmative action programs during my academic career, and as someone who may have benefited from the Law Review's affirmative action policy when I was selected to join the Review last year, I have not felt stigmatized within the broader law school community or as a staff member of the Review.

Bottom line: Had Obama's father come from Kentucky not Kenya, and been named O'Hara not Obama, there would have been no Harvard Law Review, no Harvard, no Columbia. Barry O'Hara would probably be chasing ambulances in Honolulu and setting his political sights on the Honolulu City Council.
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plainoldme
 
  1  
Thu 27 May, 2010 05:42 pm
@okie,
I told you time and time again that the liberals wanted teachers to be educated in the subjects they were to teach and not in educational theory.

Conservative women majored in education because they saw the course work as simple and it allowed them plenty of time to sunbathe.

Consider that most scientists are liberal.
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plainoldme
 
  1  
Thu 27 May, 2010 05:47 pm
@okie,
Hey, what is my moral condition?

I wasn't pregnant when I married.

My daughter did not have to drop out of high school because she was pregnant and she was never a drunk during high school.

Even if my daughter had become pregnant as a 17 year old, I would never have created a sham engagement for her. Had I run for public office, I would not have used my kids as props as sarah did.

BTW, I do not capitalize her name on purpose: I have no respect for her because she is a hypocrite. I am not a hypocrite.
plainoldme
 
  1  
Thu 27 May, 2010 05:51 pm
@okie,
I will read your posts when they are either: 1.) short, or, 2.) literate and error-free.
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plainoldme
 
  1  
Thu 27 May, 2010 05:51 pm
@ican711nm,
Broken record! Broken record! Broken record!
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plainoldme
 
  1  
Thu 27 May, 2010 05:53 pm
@djjd62,
High five!
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okie
 
  -1  
Thu 27 May, 2010 09:30 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:


BTW, I do not capitalize her name on purpose: I have no respect for her because she is a hypocrite. I am not a hypocrite.

So you claim to be an expert at writing in proper English, but you don't realize something as simple in terms of writing in English includes the fact that proper names are to be capitalized? Claiming to be something you aren't is hypocrisy, in case you don't realize it, pom. The decision to capitalize a name has nothing to do with respect. If it did, I would never capitalize "Obama," but I do anyway because it is a simple rule of writing properly.
plainoldme
 
  1  
Thu 27 May, 2010 10:13 pm
@okie,
I do not respect liars. The Tundra Twit is a liar.

I do not respect bad mothers. The Tundra Twit is a bad mother who used her children as props for her ambitions and hamstrung them in life by giving them awful names.

Were I to capitalize the names sarah palin or ronald raygun or scott brown, I would be guilty of hypocrisy.
okie
 
  -1  
Thu 27 May, 2010 11:40 pm
@plainoldme,
As I said, twit, capitalizing a name has nothing to do with respect, it has to do with proper English. You are a joke and a hypocrite, pom.
plainoldme
 
  1  
Fri 28 May, 2010 06:30 am
@okie,
Betcha had to google the word twit.
okie
 
  -1  
Fri 28 May, 2010 06:56 am
@plainoldme,
Wrong again. By the way, "betcha" is not a legitimate word for an "elite English expert" to be using.
 

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