Obama '08?

Let's start with the simple idea of whether it occurred or not and whether GWBush declared it a disaster area.

parados wrote:

Let's start with the simple idea of whether it occurred or not and whether GWBush declared it a disaster area.

Seems there was a largish earthquake there on 10/15/06. Whew ... I may once again bow to the Messiah.

I hear earthquakes are down 400% globally since Obama took office.

Seems there was a largish earthquake there on 10/15/06.

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/03/17/obamacare-increases-unemployment-insurance-premiums-deficit-and-debt/
Obamacare Increases Unemployment, Insurance Premiums, Deficit, and Debt
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President Barack Obama and congressional leaders claim that the Senate health bill, which will likely face a vote in the House by the end of the week, will decrease the deficit and bend the cost curve related to health care spending. However, recent analysis by The Heritage Foundation’s Center for Data Analysis (CDA) shows that this is far from true. Instead, the bill’s mandates and numerous new taxes will have tumultuous effects. Passing Obamacare will come at the expense of the American people as it would grow the federal debt, increase premiums, and stifle economic growth.

The Senate bill would have disastrous effects on the economy and federal spending. CDA shows that the bill:

Increases the federal deficit and national debt. The Congressional Budget Office shows deficit neutrality for the Senate bill"however, this is based on static analysis which ignores the effects new taxes and an individual and employer mandate would have on economic growth. These provisions would decrease investment in the economy, resulting in lower wages and salaries. This means less taxable income, lowering federal revenues and growing the debt. Increased borrowing puts upward pressure on interest rates causing some private sector productive investment opportunities to be foregone. This also increases the interest owed on the national debt, such that the government would pay, on average, $20 billion more in interest between 2010 and 2020. By the end of the decade, CDA estimates the publicly held debt would be $755 billion dollars more than under current law.

Increases insurance premiums. Mandates in the Senate bill would require health plans to offer more generous coverage, increasing the cost of insurance. Increased spending on premiums, accompanied by increased medical spending, would create upward pressure on prices. This would further increase government spending, since offering the current levels of care covered by Medicaid and the proposed subsidies would cost significantly more. Another choice would be to ration provider payments even more severely.

Increases unemployment. The bill also places new taxes on “the rich”"or, in more realistic terms, small businesses and those who create jobs. CDA’s dynamic analysis of the bill shows that an average 690,000 jobs per year would be lost due to the effects described above.

Americans have recently voiced that Congress’ top legislative priority should be restoring jobs and the economy. Instead, congressional leaders have focused their agenda on passing the Senate health care bill, which would have the opposite effect of killing jobs growth, suppressing economic growth, and adding to the nation’s already unsustainable levels of federal spending.

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Seems there was a largish earthquake there on 10/15/06.

It seems you are an idiot for complaining about the lack of one.

Why would you bow to anyone? Statements like that make you look petty, Tico.

These provisions would decrease investment in the economy, resulting in lower wages and salaries.

Increases insurance premiums. Mandates in the Senate bill would require health plans to offer more generous coverage, increasing the cost of insurance.

Increases unemployment. The bill also places new taxes on “the rich”"or, in more realistic terms, small businesses and those who create jobs. CDA’s dynamic analysis of the bill shows that an average 690,000 jobs per year would be lost due to the effects described above.

I heard that clip on the radio this morning, and could not remember the Hawaii earthquake -- and I'm not alone. So, did Hawaii go through an earthquake, or has Haiti become a US State? Or has Obama been smoking some ganga?

Dear Fellow Tea Party Patriots,

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Thousands of you came to Capitol Hill yesterday and lobbied the Representatives to vote no on the health care bill. We had an impact and were the talk of the news shows last night. Thank you for your devotion to the cause of liberty. It was a pleasure serving with each of you.


There are 4 more actions you can take regarding stopping government takeover of health care.

1. Many people are emailing us requesting we be available in DC on Saturday, March 20. For that reason we will be back in DC on Capitol Hill Saturday, March 20 at 10:00 am, we are asking for those who can come to DC, to come back. We will have a brief rally and then divide up to go walk the halls of Congress. Before the House vote on government takeover of health care in November, there are lots of government health care advocates walking the halls of Congress keeping track of how the Congressmen would vote. We are asking you to do the same. You are the ordinary citizen not a lobbyist or other special interest. They are elected to represent you. They need to be reminded one last time who you are and why you do not want this bill to pass.

2. Keep calling and visiting the local district offices of the targeted Congressmen. We have been advised that 6 - 10 constituents visiting an office in 1 day is a lot. If you are a constituent or know someone who is a constituent of those who are undecided on the health care bill, stop in their office and tell them why you want them to vote no.

3. Call your Governor, State Senator, and State Representative. Ask them if they have told the Congressmen to vote no on health care. Remind them that they have political influence and you want them to exercise it.

4. If you are in the Fairfax, VA area Friday morning very early and want to watch President Obama speak or to protest outside of where he will be speaking, contact Diana Reimer ([email protected]). President Obama will be speaking at the Patriot Center at George Mason University. Tickets are not required for this event which seats 10,000 people and is first come first serve. The President will be speaking about government takeover of health care.

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Our tentative "meetup" location will be at the East Lawn of the Capitol (East Capitol Circle, same side of the Capitol as the Supreme Court Building). We will give you the Representatives' information, room numbers etc. and give you helpful hints on lobbying. We are working on a permit tomorrow morning and will have final details out tomorrow and posted on our web site tomorrow.

Thousands of you came to Capitol Hill yesterday and lobbied the Representatives to vote no on the health care bill.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3590PP/html/BILLS-111hr3590PP.htm

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(a) Short Title.--This Act may be cited as the ``Patient Protection
and Affordable Care Act''.
(b) Table of Contents.--The table of contents of this Act is as
follows:

Sec. 1. Short title; table of contents.

TITLE I--QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS

Subtitle A--Immediate Improvements in Health Care Coverage for All
Americans

Tico wrote:

I heard that clip on the radio this morning, and could not remember the Hawaii earthquake ...

So, did Hawaii go through an earthquake, ...

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Increases insurance premiums. Mandates in the Senate bill would require health plans to offer more generous coverage, increasing the cost of insurance.

Those same mandates add millions of new subscribers to the plans, which puts downward price pressure on the plans themselves. That's how insurance works. So, wrong again.

Why or how would adding millions of high-risk, sick, previously uninsurable individuals bring prices down?

Everyone that has healthcare today will see their insurance premiums rise if/when/after this bill goes into effect (above and beyond what the normal increase is/would be; I think the CBO or someone published a study saying as much).