Obama '08?

Roxxxanne wrote:

Lash wrote:

That doesn't make them right.

About anything, it seems.

Happy alien hunting!

It doesn't make you right either. About anything.

Not sure if I can survive this blistering come back.



Soz or anybody, to make amends for my alien sidebar--

Some would say Bush hadn't had much exprience pre-election, but a governor does manage a state. A Senator's job is not a good prereq for President.

Do you really think Obama is qualified?

Makes me sad that you think charm is one of the three most important needs of a President, soz.

Oh and I think two of the main things a president needs in immediate, non-advisor situations is personal charm and intelligence, and he has both of those.

In non-advisor situations.

Why wouldn't it be?

This is about meeting foreign leaders -- being charming is extremely important there. About meeting with various political people who want something from him -- also important. The whole thing with McCain is a perfect example of how he deployed charm in a proactive way.

That's something you can't rely on advisors for, you have to do it yourself.

Makes me sad that you think charm is one of the three most important needs of a President, soz.

In non-advisor situations.

Why wouldn't it be?

This is about meeting foreign leaders -- being charming is extremely important there. About meeting with various political people who want something from him -- also important. The whole thing with McCain is a perfect example of how he deployed charm in a proactive way.

That's something you can't rely on advisors for, you have to do it yourself.

Roxxxanne, is all that really necessary?

Can you just address what's being said without the hyperbole and extra stuff?

Let me ask this -- if Obama were the Democratic nominee in 2008, would YOU vote for him? Why or why not?

sozobe wrote:

In non-advisor situations.

Why wouldn't it be?

This is about meeting foreign leaders -- being charming is extremely important there. About meeting with various political people who want something from him -- also important. The whole thing with McCain is a perfect example of how he deployed charm in a proactive way.

That's something you can't rely on advisors for, you have to do it yourself.

I think of Lincoln, Truman,...

Resolutionor strength of will, when you need to stand firm, conviction about your vision, curiosity in seeking the right, best answers, compassion, flexibility, honesty...

Charm would come in handy getting you there, but in many spots of this thread, it seems as though he's being judged for a beauty contest.

Don't want to throw a wet blanket, though. Just thought it was an important observation, and actually, a seeming characteristic of the Democrat party's considerations.

...like the one that impeachment proceedings would be really bad news for the Dems?

I'd agree with that... I can't imagine voting for Lieberman. Luckily, I doubt we'll have to. (Is he being seriously considered by anyone for '08?)