Debra Law
 
  1  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 10:25 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

They (Foxie and aiden) believe that if they tag something as unethical, it has to be true - without them having to prove it is unethical. They will do everything in their meme to express negativity without having to show proof.

That's the MAC-conservative way!

They still haven't proved it's unethical; will they ever?


The accusation has been made, but no proof has been presented.
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 10:27 am
@Debra Law,
Debra Law wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:
. . . For the record, I do not believe I have written 'you are stupid if you do not agree with me' or anything to that effect, in any of the conversations I have been having. . . .


That's not your modus operandi, Cyclops.

On the other hand, it is Foxfyre who repeatedly tells us that we make no sense, we don't understand what she or her favorite commentator has written, we're incapable of understanding intellectually complex matters, etc., etc., etc., if we don't agree with her . . . yet RG singles you out for condemnation?


Well, it's fair to say that I am confrontational and I'm sure some of my posts could be categorized as abrasive. I'm not trying to come off as a saint here; but I don't believe I have given the impression that only my opinion counts or only what I say matters.

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 10:28 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Compared to me, you are not "confrontational."
okie
 
  0  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 10:54 am
@cicerone imposter,
ci's confessional in regard to Obama, let it all out, it would have a cleansing effect:

cicerone imposter wrote:
I used to think he was a smart man, but he's showing that's not true in many respects.
okie
 
  0  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 10:55 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Compared to me, you are not "confrontational."

Go at it, guys, argue over who is the most confrontational, I would be interested in who wins.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 10:56 am
@okie,
You're not answering my direct questions.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 10:59 am
@Debra Law,
okie does the same thing; he makes generalized accusations, but when asked to show proof, he goes into tangents without answering any direct question.

That's the MAC-conservative way. It's no wonder their party is shrinking.
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okie
 
  -1  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 02:09 pm
Will John Holdren be put in charge of Obama care, just a thought? That would give him a chance to have all McCain voters sterilized. Its called job security for Obama.

Who knows, the skys the limit when you are a radical from Chicago.

Or maybe this could all be answered over a beer? But what about obesity, sheesh, every time we do something, another problem.
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okie
 
  -2  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 02:15 pm
This is the new presidential way to solve problems:

http://www.totalprosports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/barack-obama-drinking-a-beer.jpg
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 02:22 pm
@okie,
And your's is how?

Please show us the ways you would solve all the important problems of our day.
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Foxfyre
 
  1  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 02:48 pm
Rasmussen has Obama down in the approval ratings again today--and continually to sink slowly but surely. Below 50% in Rasmussen poll of likely voters; about 53% approval among mostly all Americans. (RCP average). It's everything put together of course that is taking the bloom off the rose, but I do think it is the healthcare issue that is scaring people the most.

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/7-29-09matrixbluepillRGB2220090729085437.jpg

cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 03:22 pm
@Foxfyre,
Washington Post-ABC News Poll

This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone July 15-18, 2009, among a random national sample of 1,001 adults including users of both conventional and cellular phones. The results from the full survey have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three points. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa.

*= less than 0.5 percent

1. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as president? Do you approve/disapprove strongly or somewhat?

..............................-------- Approve -------- ------- Disapprove ------ No
..... NET Strongly Somewhat NET Somewhat Strongly opinion
7/18/09 59 .. 38 .... 22 ....... 37 ... 9 ........ 28 4
6/21/09 65 .. 36 .... 29 ....... 31 ... 10 ........ 22 4
4/24/09 69 .. 42 .... 27 ....... 26 ... 8 ........ 18 4
3/29/09 66 .. 40 .... 26 ....... 29 ... 9 ........ 20 5
2/22/09 68 .. 43 .... 25 ........ 25 ... 8 ........ 17 7

2. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Obama is handling [ITEM]? Do you approve/disapprove strongly or somewhat?
7/18/09 - Summary Table*

-------- Approve ------------- ------- Disapprove ------ No
NET Strongly Somewhat NET Somewhat Strongly op.
a. The economy 52 29 23 ............... 46 10 35 3
b. Health care.. 49 25 24 ............... 44 11 33 7
c. The federal
budget deficit.. 43 19 24 ................ 49 11 38 8
d. Unemployment 52 26 26 ............... 42 11 31 6
e. The situation
in Afghanistan 62 33 29 ................ 30 13 17 8
*Full sample asked item a; half sample asked items b-c; other half sample asked items d-e.

Trend where available:

a. The economy

-------- Approve -------------- ------- Disapprove ------ No
NET Strongly Somewhat NET Somewhat Strongly opinion
7/18/09 ......... 52 29 23 .............. 46 10 35 3
6/21/09 ..........56 28 28 ..............41 13 27 3
4/24/09 ........ 58 31 28 ..............38 13 25 4
3/29/09 ........ 60 34 25 ..............38 12 26 3
2/22/09 ........ 60 NA NA ............. 34 NA NA 6

b. Health care

-------- Approve -------------- ------- Disapprove ------ No
NET Strongly Somewhat NET Somewhat Strongly opinion
7/18/09...... 49 ....... 25 .... 24 44 11 33 7
6/21/09...... 53 ....... 27 .... 26 39 10 29 9
4/24/09...... 57 ...... NA NA 29 NA NA 13

c. The federal budget deficit

-------- Approve ------------- ------- Disapprove ------ No
........ NET Strongly Somewhat NET Somewhat Strongly opinion
7/18/09.... 43...... 19 .... 24..... 49 ........ 11 ..... 38 8
6/21/0.... 48...... 22 .... 26..... 48 ....... 13 ..... 35 5
4/24/09... 51..... NA.. NA..... 43 ...... NA .... NA 7
3/29/09... 52..... NA.. NA..... 43 ...... NA .... NA 5

d. No trend.
okie
 
  0  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 03:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
July 18 is out of date already, ci, his numbers have dropped points since then. He is sinking, and the Democrats know it. Obama could be the best thing to happen to the Republican Party since Jimmy Carter. His goofy beer summit is not going to help him in my opinion. He is not presidential material. Never was. He made one speech, thats all, zero, nothing besides that, to be crowned by the liberal left media as the Democrats saviour. Now they are reaping what they sowed.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 03:51 pm
@okie,
okie, The point you are missing is that even with the drop in points, Obama is still one of the highest rated after six months in office. The counter-balance to the recent polls is the fact that the first six month's of a president's rating isn't reflective of his rating as a president compared to all presidents after they have completed their term(s). Putting all the effort you MACs-conservatives are putting on this drop in the polls doesn't mean much in the long term.

You people relish in any bad news that really isn't bad news. Grow up!
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okie
 
  0  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 03:51 pm
@okie,
Besides, read your own posts:

cicerone imposter wrote:

I used to think he was a smart man, but he's showing that's not true in many respects.

cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 03:53 pm
@okie,
That's my personal opinion; that has nothing to do with national polls.
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 04:17 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

July 18 is out of date already, ci, his numbers have dropped points since then. He is sinking, and the Democrats know it. Obama could be the best thing to happen to the Republican Party since Jimmy Carter. His goofy beer summit is not going to help him in my opinion. He is not presidential material. Never was. He made one speech, thats all, zero, nothing besides that, to be crowned by the liberal left media as the Democrats saviour. Now they are reaping what they sowed.


What a whiny little guy you sound like.

The fact that a dude who isn't presidential material, and made one speech, beat the **** out of your best, ought to tell you just how much the Republican party is sucking it up these days, Okie. How do you square this stuff, in your head?

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 04:24 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cyclo, These MACs-conservatives must latch onto anything that looks negative for Obama. Their brain is not engaged in reality, rationality, and facts. They don't know how to equate these issues with past history, nor understand that their whining really tells the true story; they're a bunch of losers.

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okie
 
  -2  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 04:51 pm
@okie,
The most rational poster on this forum, according to him of course, said this:

cicerone imposter wrote:

I used to think he was a smart man, but he's showing that's not true in many respects.


And he still supports Obama. Go figure!!!!!!!!!
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 30 Jul, 2009 05:01 pm
@okie,
Go figure what? He's our president. It's not my problem you don't support our country's president who's trying his best to do the right thing. I disagree with some of the stuff he's doing, but I also don't agree with everything my siblings or wife does either!

Your problem is that you have no ability to discern the difference between different issues as good or bad, like or dislike, acceptable or not acceptable from the same person.

Everybody knows about your blind hate that has no rationale to it. You make blatant negative opinions without having the common sense to support them with evidence or facts on the matter.
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