Obama '08?

Sooner or later, he has to deliver as president...
PrezBO and his teleprompter are dumb & dumber and the entire would is snickering.

'We Misread How Bad the Economy Was'

The vice president says the Obama administration "misread how bad the economy was" but stands by its
stimulus package and believes the plan will create more jobs as the pace of its spending gains momentum.

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@Advocate,

Advocate wrote:

If you do any investigation of the supply of MD's, you would conclude that there would not be a shortage. At present, there are hordes of people who would sell their souls to become doctors. This would not significantly be reduced.

Please enlighten us with the fruits of your investigation. Your conclusion - that the supply of doctors & specialists will not decrease, even if their net income is significantly reduced - is contrary to the known patterns of economic activity. Moreover is is contrary to the experience of the UK and other nations with government operated medical systems.

One is naturally reminded of your many other nonsensical assertions on other subjects.

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@georgeob1,

Quote:

One is naturally reminded of your many other nonsensical assertions on other subjects.

when one is speaking of advocate, there are only nonsensical assertions. He has a intellectual depth measured in microns.

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@panzade,

panzade wrote:

Happens all the time...cigarettes just went up $2.00 a pack. All tax/fine.
Seatbelts...not wearing one? $125 fine

I think Florida is having its way with you again, panz. Federal tax went up by about .67 per pack. Anything else is state or jobbers.

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@Advocate,

From the Journal of American Medical Association:

Quote:

US Medical School Enrollment Rising, But Residency Programs Too Limited
Hampton
JAMA.2008; 299: 2846

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Obama Tells Russian Reporter That He is Working on His Golf Swing

Obama's Diplomacy to Be Tested in Russia

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How stimulated has Obama/Biden made you?

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http://boortz.com/images/2009/07/070609_security_samuelson_o.jpg

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@georgeob1,

What is your source that the supply of doctors was significantly diminished in a number of countries because of universal health care?

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@dyslexia,

Please relate to me some of my nonsensical assertions. You and George are just making baseless assertions.

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

Your conclusion - that the supply of doctors & specialists will not decrease, even if their net income is significantly reduced - is contrary to the known patterns of economic activity. Moreover is is contrary to the experience of the UK and other nations with government operated medical systems.

One is naturally reminded of your many other nonsensical assertions on other subjects.

Certainly I agree with your last sentence, George.

I doubt that you can compare the pre-NHS period in the UK with the one afterwards. But I would be very interested to learn how you did it.

To what "other nations with government operated medical systems" are you referring?

You've got e.g. in Germany 34 physicans per 100,000 inhabitants; in Switzerland 40; in Austria 37; in the UK 23; in the USA 26 ...
(Source: WHO)

The ratio of psychiatric beds per inhabitants is another interesting indicator where government operating systems fail, isn't it? (And I'm referring here to "psychiatric hospitals", not to houses where patients are locked up like in ....)

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@georgeob1,

Quote:

Please enlighten us with the fruits of your investigation.

The hypocrite speaketh his hypocrisy.

Where are all these doctors gonna flee to, Mexico, England perhaps?

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@JTT,

JTT wrote:

Quote:
Please enlighten us with the fruits of your investigation.

Where are all these doctors gonna flee to, Mexico, England perhaps?

Only if they specialize in emergency trauma care because the places you have named are way to dangerous.
Mexico has their war between drug lords and England because the citizens have been disarmed leaving only the criminals with weapons.

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

England because the citizens have been disarmed leaving only the criminals with weapons.

It's amazing! All of those poor British citizens have been disarmed, left defenseless against all those killers and murderers roaming their country, while the well-armed American population is completely able to even stand up against the government should it turn into a tyranny - and yet Americans get murdered five times as often as those Brits. It's ming-boggling, isn't it?

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@old europe,

old europe wrote:

ming-boggling

I'm sure you meant "mind-boggling" and yes, your failure to see what's going on in old europe is mind-boggling.

The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/02/article-1196941-05900DF7000005DC-677_468x636.jpg

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@H2O MAN,

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@old europe,

Keep you head in the sand if you want... your ignorance is permanent.

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Talk about having balls...

US-Russian Arms Negotiators "Under the Gun," Might Temporarily Bypass Senate Ratification for Treaty

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/us-russian-arms-negotiators-under-the-gun-might-temporarily-bypass-senate-ratification-for-treaty.html

Quote:

MOSCOW -- With the clock running out on a new US-Russian arms treaty before the previous Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, or START, expires on December 5, a senior White House official said Sunday said that the difficulty of the task might mean temporarily bypassing the Senate’s constitutional role in ratifying treaties by enforcing certain aspects of a new deal on an executive levels and a “provisional basis” until the Senate ratifies the treaty.

So the Obama admin is admitting that they might just ignore the Constitution because they are "under the gun"
I dont remember anything in the Constitution that gives the WH the right to ignore the law regarding Senate ratification of treaties.

What happens if the Senate DOESNT ratify the treaty?
Will the WH stop abiding by it?

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@mysteryman,

I can see the Obama WH just ignore the Constitution and do what they want or more to the point, what other countries want them to do.

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@H2O MAN,

It's always interesting to see how they compare with the actual statistics
You can't just compare the "violent crime" statistics. You have to look at what each country includes in those statistics

The US has a violent crime rate of 466 per 100,000 persons but a burglary rate of 723 per person. This is a perfect example of the misuse of statistics to compare UK's crime rate to the US violent crime rate.

The US statistic for larceny alone is 2,178 per 100,000 people so there is more larceny per 100,000 person in the US than there is entire crime in the UK.

The US rate for property crime is 3,264 per 100,000 persons.

That means the US crime rate is over 6,000 crimes per 100,000 persons compared to the UK's 2,034. The US crime rate is at least 3 times the UK crime rate if the 2,034 is really TOTAL crime in the UK.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/data/table_01.html

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