Obama '08?

@dyslexia,

Obama is either an American or he's an African... pick one you racist neanderthal.

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@H2O MAN,

Are you nuts? One is a nationality and the other is a race.

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@Advocate,

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Re: H2O MAN (Post 3672670)
Are you nuts?

I venture, a rhetorical question, n'est ce pas?

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@Advocate,

And please tell us what "race" is African?

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@mysteryman,

What about black African!

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@Advocate,

That could be a race OR a black person with citizenship somewhere in Africa. America is a country however while Africa is a continent. It would have been more accurate to have said North American or African - or - American or Kenyan (or whatever African country was intended).

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@Advocate,

What about it?

You claimed that "african" was a race.
Now, there are white africans, black africans, africans with brown colored skin (from Egypt and the other mediteranean countries, etc.

So, I ask again, what "race" is african?

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@mysteryman,

There are a million (or more) sources out there where you can find your answer.

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@cicerone imposter,

But I wasnt the one that made the claim.

Unless you are going to admit that "American" is a race also.
Do you believe that also?

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A hyphenated-American is a worthless American.

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YOU SCARE ME

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@mysteryman,

Made what claim? If Obama promised something, why are you asking me?

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Remove the "real" stupid and worthless democrats from office (Frank, Pelosi & Reid for starters) and Obama will become a better president overnight.

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@H2O MAN,

You are absolutely correct in that assessment.

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@Yankee,

I think we will have to kick out more than Frank, Reid, and Pelosi, including some Republicans, but yes, Obama would benefit mightily from a Congress such as Bill Clinton was blessed with. Because Clinton was willing to mostly work with that visionary so-called 'freshman class' of 1994 to develop sound policy, it wasn't perfect and mistakes were made, but he enjoyed considerable success as President and decent favorables in public opinion that he probably would not have otherwise had..

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@Foxfyre,

Foxfyre wrote:

I think we will have to kick out more than Frank, Reid, and Pelosi, including some Republicans...

Frank, Reid, and Pelosi are just a start and yes, there are many republicans that also need to be removed from office.

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Meanwhile, payola or pay to play remains alive and well in Washington. President Obama continues to reward those who put him into office, and that would not include all those small internet donors that were once held up as the primary source of campaign contributions. But, so goes politics in America where what you have done or can do for your candidate counts much more than qualifications for an appointment:

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Obama taps more big donors for ambassadorships
Jun 12, 12:16 AM (ET)
By MATTHEW LEE

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama on Thursday tapped four big Democratic Party donors for plum ambassadorships in Europe and Latin America while naming six career diplomats to posts in Africa, the Mideast and the Pacific.

Washington lawyer Howard Gutman, who raised more than $500,000 for Obama's campaign and personally contributed the maximum $4,600 to it, was nominated to be the next U.S. envoy to Belgium, the White House said in a statement.

Gutman also contributed $2,300 to now Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan group that tracks money in politics.

Obama named former Virginia Lt. Gov. Donald Beyer to be ambassador to Switzerland and Luxembourg. Beyer, who made his money as a car dealer, raised more than $500,000 for Obama and also contributed $4,600 to his campaign, according to the center.

Vinai Thummalapally, a Colorado business executive and Obama friend who raised between $100,000 and $200,000 for the campaign and donated $4,500 to it, was named the next U.S. ambassador to Belize. Thummalapally's wife, Barbara, contributed $2,800 to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

Obama also named Washington lawyer Mark Gitenstein, who donated more than $4,000 to now Vice President Joe Biden's presidential campaign and contributed $1,500 to Clinton's campaign to be ambassador to Romania.

Career diplomats were nominated on Thursday to be envoys to Burundi, Tunisia, the Marshall Islands, Oman and Suriname. Obama also chose retired Army Gen. Alfonso Lenhardt to be ambassador to Tanzania.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090612/D98OTD380.html

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

I think we will have to kick out more than Frank, Reid, and Pelosi, including some Republicans...

Frank, Reid, and Pelosi are just a start and yes, there are many republicans that also need to be removed from office.

Doesn't this all kinda start at the local level. By the time people are running for the Senate or House, it's almost too late, we've only got a few candidates to choose from, and if both (or many are flawed), we're gonna get stuck with one of them.

How many people participate in local elections and select their candidates through research on their history?

I don't think the problems at the top will every get solved until voters start paying more attention to their local and state reps for various offices.

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@rosborne979,

All politics is local. Excellent response.

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@rosborne979,

Among all the sniping and trolling on the Conservatism thread, whether or not one identifies himself/herself as a conservative or liberal or something in between, there has been attempt at discussion of that. In my opinion, attracting competent and responsible people to high office will require reining the Federal government back to something much closer to its Constitutional roots, and thereby removing most of the temptation/ability/motive to increase one's personal power and personal fortune via election to office.

No matter how much they might complain about them, it has always fascinated me how many folks do not trust their local or state officials to 'do the right thing' as much as they think those folks in Washington are somehow more honest or trustworthy. Wouldn't you think those closer to home would be easier to watch and monitor?

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