Obama '08?

..... We ought to note that Okie forwarded this same vector a couple of weeks past. One would like to know where he bumped into the idea.

Barack Hussein Obama: Once a Muslim, Always A Muslim
By Debbie Schlussel

Many months ago, readers began asking me whether Barack Obama is Muslim. Since he identifies as a Christian, I said, "no," and responded that he was not raised by his Kenyan father.

But, then, I decided to look further into Obama's background. His full name--as by now you have probably heard--is Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Hussein is a Muslim name, which comes from the name of Ali's son--Hussein Ibn Ali. And Obama is named after his late Kenyan father, the late Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., apparently a Muslim.

And while Obama may not identify as a Muslim, that's not how the Arab and Muslim Streets see it. In Arab culture and under Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, so are you. And once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You cannot go back. In Islamic eyes, Obama is certainly a Muslim. He may think he's a Christian, but they do not.


Then, there are the other items in his background. As best-selling author Scott Turow wrote in Salon, Obama went to a Muslim school for two years in Indonesia. His mother, Anna, married an Indonesian man (likely another Muslim, as Indonesia is Muslim-dominated and has the largest Islamic population in the world).

And Obama has a "born-again" affinity for the nation of his Muslim father, Kenya, and his Kenyan sister. (Although Kenya is largely Christian, it has a fast-growing Muslim population that has engaged in a good deal of religious violence and riots against Christians. And Kenyan courts will apply Sharia law, when the participants are Muslim.) Wrote Turow:

Obama's father died in a traffic accident in Nairobi in 1982, but while Obama was working in Chicago, he met his Kenyan sister, Auma, a linguist educated in Germany who was visiting the United States. When she returned to Kenya in 1986 to teach for a year at the University of Nairobi, Obama finally made the trip to his father's homeland he had long promised himself. There, he managed to fully embrace a heritage and a family he'd never fully known and come to terms with his father, whom he'd long regarded as an august foreign prince, but now realized was a human being burdened by his own illusions and vulnerabilities.
So, even if he identifies strongly as a Christian, and even if he despised the behavior of his father (as Obama said on Oprah); is a man who Muslims think is a Muslim, who feels some sort of psychological need to prove himself to his absent Muslim father, and who is now moving in the direction of his father's heritage, a man we want as President when we are fighting the war of our lives against Islam? Where will his loyalties be?

Is that even the man we'd want to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency, if Hillary Clinton offers him the Vice Presidential candidacy on her ticket (which he certainly wouldn't turn down)?

NO WAY, JOSE . . . Or, is that, HUSSEIN?

I would also like to see Nimh post any verification for his assertion that "we all know" that the GOP will not be the first to clean up its act--presumably the Democrats are more likely?

There are Israelis who see possibilities in Obama: The two presidents who invested the greatest effort to bringing peace to Israel and its neighbors were nearly as foreign to the mainstream as he is - Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, who were both anonymous governors of less important states, and no one could have guessed the Israeli conundrum would fascinate them. Whoever prefers this sort of president may have hope for the next generation. Sometimes, it actually works out.

And Obama has a "born-again" affinity for the nation of his Muslim father, Kenya, and his Kenyan sister. (Although Kenya is largely Christian, it has a fast-growing Muslim population that has engaged in a good deal of religious violence and riots against Christians.

Expect the Republicans to get maximum mileage out of the Hussein nickname, and to repeat it as often as it holds promise for them.

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Expect the Republicans to get maximum mileage out of the Hussein nickname, and to repeat it as often as it holds promise for them.

kelticwizard- On the contrary. I think that if the name is bandied about long enough and often enough, it will lose its "aha" appeal. The first time that one hears the name, there is curiosity, and possibly some concern about it. The second time, there may be a lifted eyebrow. After hearing it over again, it will become just a name.

In psychology, habituation is an example of non-associative learning in which there is a progressive diminution of behavioral response probability with repetition of a stimulus. It is another form of integration. An animal first responds to a sensory stimulus, but if it is neither rewarding nor harmful the animal learns to suppress its response through repeated encounters.

blatham wrote:

..... We ought to note that Okie forwarded this same vector a couple of weeks past. One would like to know where he bumped into the idea.

I bumped into the idea in my own mind, blatham, after watching the last few years of politics. This is not rocket science. The Clintons have practiced this to a fine tuned science their entire political careers. Good grief, blatham, where have you been? These are not honest people you are dealing with here. They are politically ruthless, and they know what they want, and they will go for it in any way they think they can obtain it, and get by with it, and anyone opposing them should just be aware of it.

It seems that the judgmental, prejudiced, self-appointed, moral superior types don't believe you (or any of us with a different point of view) are capable of cognitive thought and drawing our own conclusions, Okie, or else we would think like they do.

Sorry soz...but...

Foxfyre wrote:

It seems that the judgmental, prejudiced, self-appointed, moral superior types don't believe you (or any of us with a different point of view) are capable of cognitive thought and drawing our own conclusions, Okie, or else we would think like they do.

That by you

Nevertheless, hope, you're surviving in those snow storms. :wink:

Happy holidays.

And apologies to you too, Soz.