Obama '08?

If you all believe that legalizeing gay marriage wont have many legal ramifications than you are kidding yourselves. Think abortion, graft(political contributions) and the way they have changed all our lives. And no I wont try to argue right or wrong, just that there will be great changes when political preassure is applied to our pols and those changes will affect our rights.

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@rabel22,

"Legal ramifications" for whom? You're expressing fears without identifying what they are like okie does. okie expresses all kinds of fears, but when we ask what they are, he's unable to provide rational answers. Where talking about one issue; gay marriage. Abortion and political graft are other separate issues.

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Good evening:
As I am sure yall are aware, Vermont over-rode a veto from the governor and approved same-sex marriages. I thought I heard, and I certainly may be wrong on this, that marriages will be allowed only for citizens of VT or other states (3?) that recognize same-sex marriages.
Now we come to DC. The City Council, by 12-0, has approved a motion allowing gay marriage. The mayor, who in the past has leaned towards allowing it, has yet to make a decision on whether or not to sign on. It seems likely he will, I think.
If he does, because of DC's status as a non-state the measure will end up in the U.S. Congress for an up or down vote in mid-May. I suspect that many members wish this thing would not show up for a vote.

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@old europe,

old europe wrote:

Well, assuming you're talking about negative consequences, then you have so far completely failed to point them out.

If you are too dense to see it, there is no hope of writing endlessly on this forum, oe, debating with you. To be honest, I think the subject needs to return to Obama. Suffice it to wind up this subject - I think homosexual behavior is a behavior undeserving of civil rights, as do a great many other people, most people in history and in many cultures. Get over the fact that some people still disagree with modern day whacked out liberal agendas.

I cannot figure out the liberal mind. In a liberal mind, it is worse to kill an animal than it is a fetus that survived abortion. You will end up with a stiffer prison sentence or penalty.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

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In a liberal mind, it is worse to kill an animal than it is a fetus that survived abortion.

Prove this claim?

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@okie,

okie wrote:

If you are too dense to see it, there is no hope of writing endlessly on this forum, oe, debating with you.

And if you're too intellectually lazy to come up with even one example to illustrate your claims of doom and gloom, it's not my duty to try and make your point for you, okie.

okie wrote:

To be honest, I think the subject needs to return to Obama.

Go ahead.

okie wrote:

Suffice it to wind up this subject - I think homosexual behavior is a behavior undeserving of civil rights, as do a great many other people, most people in history and in many cultures.

I think the same has been said about giving people of different skin colour equal rights. But to wind up this subject - I do think there seems to be a trend towards giving same sex partnerships legal status, whether you like it or not.

okie wrote:

Get over the fact that some people still disagree with modern day whacked out liberal agendas.

I have no problem with people having a different opinion. I merely point it out when those people are completely incapable of backing up the opinions they trumpet.

okie wrote:

I cannot figure out the liberal mind.

Do tell.

okie wrote:

In a liberal mind, it is worse to kill an animal than it is a fetus that survived abortion. You will end up with a stiffer prison sentence or penalty.

No wonder you can't figure out the liberal mind. It seems you form your opinions based on radical rightwing comic strips.

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@old europe,

I second everything oe said in response to okie's bigoted claims. What a loser! Not all of them have gone underground.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

okie wrote:
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In a liberal mind, it is worse to kill an animal than it is a fetus that survived abortion.

Prove this claim?

Where have you been? In a cave for the last few years?

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@okie,

okie, Yes, I've been living in a cave. Now, please prove your claim that

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"In a liberal mind, it is worse to kill an animal than it is a fetus that survived abortion."

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@okie,

okie wrote:

In a liberal mind, it is worse to kill an animal than it is a fetus that survived abortion.

Great punchline, but you're the joke. If this is your understanding of the liberal mind, you get a F for the class.

T
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@Diest TKO,

I often wonder how okie graduated from any school. He arrives at conclusions that are so off track in so many topics that it makes me wonder where he learned about life and survival. He seems to lack any common sense and logic in most of his postering whether its politics or economics and many other topics he engages himself in on a2k.

He's really an amazing fellow.

I'm still waiting for him to prove

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In a liberal mind, it is worse to kill an animal than it is a fetus that survived abortion.

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@Diest TKO,

They live in a constant state of delusion, afraid of anything that might disturb that calm senility.

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The following tells you something about your president, the same man that says he cares about you. After all you are old enough to vote, maybe thats the difference, to vote for him. If not, he doesn't care, you can die for all he cares, but he will give you a blanket to die in.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/02/obama-is-a-liar/

"In committee testimony, Mr. Obama said it was sufficient to give "comfort care" to a baby that is born despite all the efforts to kill it. "Comfort care" means giving the infant a warm blanket and permitting the baby to be held by someone as it dies. This is the most Mr. Obama could find in his heart to provide - a warm blanket for a child grasping for life. Mrs. Stanek told The Washington Times that Mr. Obama showed callousness when he questioned her in committee testimony: His inability to grasp that babies born alive need medical care was disturbing. "

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@okie,

okie wrote:

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/02/obama-is-a-liar/

"In committee testimony, Mr. Obama said it was sufficient to give "comfort care" to a baby that is born despite all the efforts to kill it. "Comfort care" means giving the infant a warm blanket and permitting the baby to be held by someone as it dies. This is the most Mr. Obama could find in his heart to provide - a warm blanket for a child grasping for life. Mrs. Stanek told The Washington Times that Mr. Obama showed callousness when he questioned her in committee testimony: His inability to grasp that babies born alive need medical care was disturbing. "

Yeah, nothing like the Washington Times for an unbiased, reliable source.

C'mon, Okie.

As for the other issue, you have your nose bent out of shape over something that doesn't affect you at all, personally; you just think that being Gay is wrong and you think anything showing approval of gay folks is equally wrong. Sir, the name for that is Bigot, I hope you like it.

Cycloptichorn

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@okie,

okie style republicans would deny that same baby a warm blanket claming "welfare" is un-american.

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@Cycloptichorn,

If you consent to a baby dying, what does that make you, cyclops?

I don't happen to believe that homosexual acts are the right thing to do. Not bigotry, just being sensible. Has nothing to do with the person. If I also think running around on your wife is wrong, does that make me a bigot too. Or what about speeding in a car, does that make me a bigot against the speeder.

I guess in the liberal mind, a standard against any behavior equals bigotry, unless of course it involves killing babies, then that is okay. But as I said, if you mistreat an animal, its terrible, just ask Michael Vick.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

If you consent to a baby dying, what does that make you, cyclops?

A realist, babies die every day. Nothing new there.

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I don't happen to believe that homosexual acts are the right thing to do. Not bigotry, just being sensible. Has nothing to do with the person. If I also think running around on your wife is wrong, does that make me a bigot too. Or what about speeding in a car, does that make me a bigot against the speeder.

I guess in the liberal mind, a standard against any behavior equals bigotry, unless of course it involves killing babies, then that is okay. But as I said, if you mistreat an animal, its terrible, just ask Michael Vick.

Not every behavior equals bigotry; but those who seek to treat people as second-class citizens, deny them rights, based on your personal opinion of their behaviors - which are harming nobody? Definitely a bigot. I hope you like the title, because I intend to keep calling you that for a long time.

Nobody gives a **** if you think homosexual acts are the 'right thing to do' or not. Nobody is looking for your approval, Okie. We're just looking for equal rights for everyone regardless of people's opinions of the morality of their sexual choices. And we will get it with or without you. You can grumble as much as you like; you don't seem to realize that you've already lost the fight.

Cycloptichorn

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@okie,

The Wash. Times is owned by Rev. Moon's organization, and the paper is very definitely affected by Moony views. It's writing is mostly trashy and should not be given any more credence than the crap we get from Okie and Foxy.

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@Advocate,

Not only is the Washington Times owned by the Moon organization, but it also shows FOX News as their "partner." What more need be said? LOL

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The Rep view is that gays are not entitled to the equal rights guaranteed under the constitution. Disgusting!

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