Obama '08?

Neither of us is an expert on gifts that might not be gifts. I think that politicians are always getting things, which are rarely reported as income. I don't know all the details in the Daschle case. Maybe the facts in the matter make it a close call. As I recall, in the Ted Stevens case, he was not charged with income tax evasion, or selling his office out for gifts. I think they got him on lying on disclosure statements.

Advocate, come on, get serious.

In regard to wanting Obama to succeed or fail, I wonder how Europeans feel about Obama succeeding in taking down the missile defense system?

And how does everyone feel about Obama's success in talking to despots, giving them credibility, people like the Iran guy that thinks the Holocaust never happened? Does everyone hope Obama succeeds? After all, nobody should dare to wish Obama not succeed.

Another question, how many people wish Obama success in destroying capitalism? Everybody on board with that?

I wish Obama every success in destroying capitalism, though the capitalists have done most of the work already. As for missile defence, of course it should be dismantled, and America left naked to the ravages of international communism, epitomised by Gordon Brown.

okie said
according to the latest survey 68% of americans approve of Obama. So Okie you seem to be in the minority of dittoheads that hate america.

Yes, hello dys, I happen to love the America of most of my life, the one that members of my family defended, and that have been deeply grateful for the opportunities afforded us, but I do not love the change that Obama wants, I don't care if 99% approve. I don't think 68% that supposedly approve of Obama, which I doubt by the way, I doubt 68% even know what he is up to, but if they did, I suspect the percentage would drop well below 50. But I admit there are far too many sissies and ungrateful ingrates in this country that want Obama to take care of their sorry behinds for the rest of their lives.

okie, Your view of this world is so skewed, you wouldn't understand how the real world reacts to world events. Those 68% who now support Obama does so after eight years of the GWBush destruction machine of our economy and our standing in this world. I would say that 100% of the people of this country has lost a good portion of their equity or wealth, and they see the destruction of jobs at new highs with further deterioration of whatever remains of their wealth. For most people, pocket book issues remain number one in this economy. Believe it or not, most want CHANGE from the Bush years.

okie said
so you just don't go for the idea of majority rule democracy?

I am fine with the majority electing representatives, as long as one thing is maintained, my constitutional rights, which protects the rights of the individual, without regard to whether that individual is in majority or minority, or even if he or she is the only person opposing Obama. If Obama violates my constitutional rights, I should trump what Obama wants to do.

68% big deal. Hitler rose to power shouting change as well. I could care less. I prefer the America I respect, not Obama's.

Marxist philosophy + incompetence + inexperience + arrogance = A National Disaster.

Okie--No. 1-- The 68 % figure is inflated. Rassmussen says that his approval is at 60%

No. 2--Almost every president elected has a high approval rating in his first three months.

No. 3--The American people are patient but not that patient> If the job situation has not improved considerably soon( by September), his Job Approval Ratings will drop below 50%.


Note:

Here < Okie, is what the Wall Street Journal wrote- today--

Speaking Out
'We can't keep looking at this as something that's going to fail. You have to look on the bright side and see the proverbial silver lining to the cloud.'

-- Helen Ann Griffith, Democrat, Flint, Mich.,75, retired school cook

'I think he has a big head and thinks he can get all this stuff done in a short amount of time and it's going to take a lot longer.'

-- Rachel Radny, Democrat, Murfreesboro, Tenn., 24, unemployed

'He's doing more than I would know to do....I don't know that [his plan] is going to work. I hope to God it does but I'd be surprised if the house of cards doesn't fall down.'

-- c-- Richard Kessler,independent, Imperial, Mo., 56, mechanic
"Democrats are extraordinarily supportive of their new Democratic president in a way that's transforming the aggregate numbers," said Mr. McInturff. "But we should be cautious because it might overstate some of the other large parts of the country that are hanging back."

Even some groups that are supporting Mr. Obama now might be harder to hold on to. That includes 10% of the electorate who are not Democrats but say they relate to Mr. Obama. Members of this group say they are less confident than others about Mr. Obama's goals and policies. A similar dynamic is at work among those living in rural areas and small towns.
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Notice this feedback----
Vincine Fallica, independent, Vermontville, N.Y., 55, case manager

'I think six to 12 months should show people if his ideas are working, that's the time frame I'm giving him before I start bashing him.'

end of quote--

Okie-Patience- Obama doesn't know what he is doing. By September, the polls will show that he has less than 50% support.

The left wing knows nothing about polls, Okie. They do not know that almost every president starts out with high numbers and then, after they start to fail miserably, there numbers fall drastically.

so okie, you just don't go for majority rule?

Okie- Here are the job approval numbers for GW Bush at the end of his term:

PRINCETON, NJ -- A new USA Today/Gallup poll, conducted Jan. 9-11, finds 34% of Americans approving of the overall job George W. Bush is doing as president and 61% disapproving.

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end of quote

I am sure that you remember, Okie, that right after 9/11 GW Bush reached a 90% Job Approval rating--something that Barack Hussein Obama will never reach. There are only 26% points between the Rasmussen Survey numbers of 60% and the 34% that Bush received at the end of his term.

I will keep posting the Obama numbers as they decline--As I mentioned previously, I look for September as a month where he will dip under 50%

1 Reply report Wed 4 Mar, 2009 04:07 pm Here < Okie, is what the Wall Street Journal wrote- today--

Speaking Out
'We can't keep looking at this as something that's going to fail. You have to look on the bright side and see the proverbial silver lining to the cloud.'

-- Helen Ann Griffith, Democrat, Flint, Mich.,75, retired school cook

'I think he has a big head and thinks he can get all this stuff done in a short amount of time and it's going to take a lot longer.'

-- Rachel Radny, Democrat, Murfreesboro, Tenn., 24, unemployed

'He's doing more than I would know to do....I don't know that [his plan] is going to work. I hope to God it does but I'd be surprised if the house of cards doesn't fall down.'

-- c-- Richard Kessler,independent, Imperial, Mo., 56, mechanic
"Democrats are extraordinarily supportive of their new Democratic president in a way that's transforming the aggregate numbers," said Mr. McInturff. "But we should be cautious because it might overstate some of the other large parts of the country that are hanging back."

Even some groups that are supporting Mr. Obama now might be harder to hold on to. That includes 10% of the electorate who are not Democrats but say they relate to Mr. Obama. Members of this group say they are less confident than others about Mr. Obama's goals and policies. A similar dynamic is at work among those living in rural areas and small towns.
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Notice this feedback----
Vincine Fallica, independent, Vermontville, N.Y., 55, case manager

'I think six to 12 months should show people if his ideas are working, that's the time frame I'm giving him before I start bashing him.'

end of quote--

Okie-Patience- Obama doesn't know what he is doing. By September, the polls will show that he has less than 50% support.

The left wing knows nothing about polls, Okie. They do not know that almost every president starts out with high numbers and then, after they start to fail miserably, there numbers fall drastically.

Re: okie (Post 3590384)
Okie--No. 1-- The 68 % figure is inflated. Rassmussen says that his approval is at 60%

No. 2--Almost every president elected has a high approval rating in his first three months.

No. 3--The American people are patient but not that patient> If the job situation has not improved considerably soon( by September), his Job Approval Ratings will drop below 50%.

Dumb questions, dys. Did you take Civics in school?

Of course, Obama was influenced by Marxists. The left wing is careful not to tell you, Okie but there is evidence that when Obama was a Community Organizer in Chicago, his mentor and supervisor for that Organization was a Marxist who was trained by Saul Alinsky. The left wing either does not know of does not want to know who Saul Alinsky was--A Doctrinaire SOCIALIST.

Dyslexia( because he is dyslexic--poor fellow) does not know that black Socialists all over the USA( see Lani Guinier) have spoken against Majority Rule and have said that black votes should count for more than one vote.
Why/ Because they have been discriminated against for so many years and a change would help them catch up.