okie
 
  0  
Tue 29 Jul, 2008 09:51 pm
"People Powered Revolution" Thats what it says on the cover. I don't think your assessment is too extreme of a thought, Finn. If too many people think their happiness and success hinges upon what government will give them, we are dangerously close to a disaster in the making. This is not the America that I was taught was supposed to be. I fear for the future of this country. Seriously.
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snood
 
  1  
Tue 29 Jul, 2008 09:56 pm
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
snood wrote:
Yeah, he's really such a hideous joke of a character, i'nt he?

http://www.foliomag.com/files/images/rolling_stone_obama.jpg


If this isn't Goebbels/Stalin/Mao like propaganda I don't know what is.


puhleeze

the guy's popular. You want to compare the cover of the Rolling Stone to Mao and Stalin -like propaganda.

Dude, you reek of desperation.
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H2O MAN
 
  0  
Tue 29 Jul, 2008 10:09 pm
okie wrote:
"People Powered Revolution" Thats what it says on the cover. I don't think your assessment is too extreme of a thought, Finn. If too many people think their happiness and success hinges upon what government will give them, we are dangerously close to a disaster in the making. This is not the America that I was taught was supposed to be. I fear for the future of this country. Seriously.


You guys are definitely onto something here Exclamation
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okie
 
  0  
Tue 29 Jul, 2008 10:18 pm
I do happen to think the country is in trouble, judging by the number of clueless, sort of aimless people out there - all looking for something or somebody to make them happy. People that think life is unfair, that the rich are the reason they are unhappy, and that some politician comes along, with no experience, no credentials, but begins to sloganeer the campaign with all of these vague promises of change, change to what they don't seem to know, but it is troubling that so many people place all of their hopes and dreams into such a person. That is not a good sign.
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Tue 29 Jul, 2008 10:19 pm
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
snood wrote:
Yeah, he's really such a hideous joke of a character, i'nt he?

http://www.foliomag.com/files/images/rolling_stone_obama.jpg


If this isn't Goebbels/Stalin/Mao like propaganda I don't know what is.


I am forced to say that you don't know what is, then.

Cycloptichorn
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H2O MAN
 
  0  
Tue 29 Jul, 2008 10:27 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:


I am forced to say that you don't know what is, then.



Could you define "is" then?


"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."
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Ticomaya
 
  1  
Tue 29 Jul, 2008 10:45 pm
snood wrote:
Yeah, he's really such a hideous joke of a character, i'nt he?

http://www.foliomag.com/files/images/rolling_stone_obama.jpg


I'm surprised Rolling Stone didn't unbutton the shirt so we could see a bit of the letter "S".
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mysteryman
 
  1  
Tue 29 Jul, 2008 10:48 pm
teenyboone wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
teenyboone wrote:
spendius wrote:
I'm inclined to think that Mr McCain can take being behind in the polls in his stride after what he has been through in the service of the Nation.

What have you been through in that regard teeny?

I would bet you would go WAA! WAA! if your Mum forget your birfday.

First, learn how to spell!

Military Wife for 22 years! Husband is a Viet Nam Vet, Gulf War 1 and 2 veteran, father was a Buffalo Soldier, WWII, Grandfather was a WWI Veteran, 4 Uncles served in WWII and Korean War. Son, served a year in Korea, 501st MI Group and he volunteered! Personally, the Black Men in my family served a country that spouted democracy, but not for them!

My father helped capture 37,000 Nazis in Italy, yet he had to ride in a train car BEHIND these bastards! Me? I've suffer the indignity of being born Black in America. It didn't make me special, except when I sat on the bus, streetcars or tried to drink from a "for whites only", water fountain and so forth.

I guess you can say I survived the war against Black Americans in a white country, stolen from the Indians. I'm not a "boomer", because I was born during the war and still survived racism, is what! Any other stupid questions?
:wink:


How long after Vietnam did you marry your husband?

I married him in 1969, not after. After is 1975. Married almost 38 years and he has a claim in for asbestos, from the Ship he was stationed on. Matter of fact his ship, the USS Satyr is still over there, left behind. A refurbished WWII Destroyer. My husband is a Tin Can Sailor, having been stationed on 4 Destroyers, his 4 years in the Navy, plus 22 in the Army National Guard. Any more questions? Cool


Im not doubting you, but you need to check your story.
You first said you were a military wife for 22 years, not 38.
Thats why I asked.

As for the USS Satyr, it wasnt a destroyer.
It was an LST and was commissioned on 27 November 1944, with Lt. Wm. J. Gavigan, USNR, in command.

It served in WW2, Korea, and Vietnam.
It also wasnt left behind.
Here is a little history for you...

Quote:
With one run to Long Xuyen, she remained in the Tan Chau area until 15 February 1971 and then returned to Long Xuyen where she operated until decommissioned and transferred to the South Vietnamese Navy on 30 September 1971. The same day she was re-commissioned as the VNS Vinh Long (HQ-802). With the fall of the South Vietnamese Government she left for the Philippines where she served as Yakal in the Philippine Navy.


http://www.mrfa.org/arl23.htm

So it wasnt "left behind", it became part of the Phillipine navy.
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okie
 
  1  
Tue 29 Jul, 2008 10:58 pm
Interesting, that Rolling Stone cover, Obama looks alot more dignified than the cartoons in the paper, with big ears, pointed chin, etc. The cartoonists will have a heyday with Obama if he wins. They are already, some of them. But word has it that Obama does not have a sense of humor about his ears, and other things, so will he shut down the cartoonists if he becomes president?
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Tue 29 Jul, 2008 11:47 pm
okie wrote:
Interesting, that Rolling Stone cover, Obama looks alot more dignified than the cartoons in the paper, with big ears, pointed chin, etc. The cartoonists will have a heyday with Obama if he wins. They are already, some of them. But word has it that Obama does not have a sense of humor about his ears, and other things, so will he shut down the cartoonists if he becomes president?


Yes, Obama looks more dignified in person then caricatures make him look.

Cycloptichorn Rolling Eyes
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H2O MAN
 
  0  
Wed 30 Jul, 2008 05:28 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
okie wrote:
Interesting, that Rolling Stone cover, Obama looks alot more dignified than the cartoons in the paper, with big ears, pointed chin, etc. The cartoonists will have a heyday with Obama if he wins. They are already, some of them. But word has it that Obama does not have a sense of humor about his ears, and other things, so will he shut down the cartoonists if he becomes president?


Yes, Obama looks more dignified in person then caricatures make him look.


So what!
Are you voting for Obama because you think he looks dignified?
That's lame Rolling Eyes
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snood
 
  2  
Wed 30 Jul, 2008 05:55 am
You can't really be so clueless, to that completely miss Cyclops' point...

can you?
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H2O MAN
 
  0  
Wed 30 Jul, 2008 06:03 am
snood wrote:
You can't really be so clueless, to that completely miss Cyclops' point...



No, I'm not clueless. I think we all know what caricatures are.
The RS cover looks more like an airbrushed glamor shot though.
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Butrflynet
 
  1  
Wed 30 Jul, 2008 06:08 am
http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/7/8/6/1/9961687-9961690-slarge.jpg
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H2O MAN
 
  0  
Wed 30 Jul, 2008 06:10 am
Now that's a caricature.

Notice the rest of the text on this cover gives off a negative
message ... The same can not be said for the Obama cover.
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FreeDuck
 
  2  
Wed 30 Jul, 2008 07:01 am
Ticomaya wrote:

I'm surprised Rolling Stone didn't unbutton the shirt so we could see a bit of the letter "S".


Now that's funny.
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FreeDuck
 
  2  
Wed 30 Jul, 2008 07:09 am
okie wrote:
I do happen to think the country is in trouble, judging by the number of clueless, sort of aimless people out there - all looking for something or somebody to make them happy. People that think life is unfair, that the rich are the reason they are unhappy, and that some politician comes along, with no experience, no credentials, but begins to sloganeer the campaign with all of these vague promises of change, change to what they don't seem to know, but it is troubling that so many people place all of their hopes and dreams into such a person. That is not a good sign.


Well, I also think this country is in trouble, but clearly not for the same reasons. Years and years of voter apathy and lack of civic education have given us the government you would expect such a populace to elect. We have systemic problems now and no bandaid will fix it, and distractions won't hide it. Obama is not the one-man solution to all of this. Our government will not tackle these problems -- and the problems I'm talking about are most definitely the kind that government SHOULD be tackling -- without strong leadership and an engaged populace pressuring them to do so. Obama is, so far, the only candidate who appears to understand this. That's why he's ahead, not because we think he's a savior. But I think you know this.
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engineer
 
  1  
Wed 30 Jul, 2008 07:29 am
okie wrote:
Interesting, that Rolling Stone cover, Obama looks alot more dignified than the cartoons in the paper, with big ears, pointed chin, etc. The cartoonists will have a heyday with Obama if he wins. They are already, some of them. But word has it that Obama does not have a sense of humor about his ears, and other things, so will he shut down the cartoonists if he becomes president?

If Presidents has the power to shut down cartoonists in the US, there would be a lot of people out of business.
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revel
 
  1  
Wed 30 Jul, 2008 07:38 am
okie wrote:
Interesting, that Rolling Stone cover, Obama looks alot more dignified than the cartoons in the paper, with big ears, pointed chin, etc. The cartoonists will have a heyday with Obama if he wins. They are already, some of them. But word has it that Obama does not have a sense of humor about his ears, and other things, so will he shut down the cartoonists if he becomes president?


DREAMS FROM MY FATHER

Quote:
"the skinny young kid with big ears and the funny
name"
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real life
 
  1  
Wed 30 Jul, 2008 07:43 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
snood wrote:
Yeah, he's really such a hideous joke of a character, i'nt he?

http://www.foliomag.com/files/images/rolling_stone_obama.jpg


If this isn't Goebbels/Stalin/Mao like propaganda I don't know what is.


I am forced to say that you don't know what is, then.

Cycloptichorn


I think it's a subliminal plea to the marijuana legalization crowd.

They are likely readers of this mag, and notice how the picture placement makes it say 'Rollin one' ?

Coincidence? I doubt it. Laughing
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