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Thu 23 Feb, 2006 09:56 am
Musicians, poets, painters, writers and artists of all kinds.
I wonder if any of them ever set out to actually produce a work of art. I imagine most just do what they enjoy and will hopefully earn them a living at least, and with luck, a fortune.
If what they produce is subsequently acclaimed as 'art' then that's a bonus.
I think there's far too much deep analysis of poetry, books, paintings, films, theatre etc; as though every work has to have a deep and profound life changing effect on the reader/viewer.
As Freud said "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar".
I'd hate to be a critic and have to view everything with a critical eye. I go to see something expecting to enjoy and be entertained.
What else would they be setting out to do?
I think that most do set out to produce their art. Whether it be a painting or a concerto or a sonnet.
Id like to know what makes Tracey Emins messy bed worth thousands when my messy bed isnt worth anything!!!
Maybe other people, the onlookers decide what is art and what is not.
Re: Do artists set out to make art?
phoney wrote:I think there's far too much deep analysis of poetry, books, paintings, films, theatre etc; as though every work has to have a deep and profound life changing effect on the reader/viewer.
As Freud said "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar".
I don't think there's too much of it. I don't agree with many of these "deep analyses," but I don't blame anyone for trying.
Quote:I'd hate to be a critic and have to view everything with a critical eye. I go to see something expecting to enjoy and be entertained.
I don't think being able to do one takes away your ability to do the other. The two often produce contradictory results, but I don't believe anyone has to choose between one or the other; there's nothing wrong with having conflicting interpretations of the same thing. That's what makes art so much fun to experience... there are so many ways to go at it.
good answer.
yes, artists who are serious about what they do, set out to create art. There is thought behind their work, ideas they want to express and they aren't simply making a picture.
Amateurs set out to do something that pleases them and the degree of thought or art they aim for is variable from none to a lot.
A musician sets out to make music, a carpenter sets out to make a door or a chair/whatever. A master craftsman makes a beautifully crafted piece and an diy beginner makes a hopefully adquate job.
There are degrees of skilll an ability in everything.
Tracey Emin - no.
Material Girl, you ask "what makes Tracey Emins' messy bed worth thousands when my messy bed isnt worth anything!!! Well, I do not consider it art, any more than I consider Andy Warhol's fake Brlllo boxes or Duchamp's inverted urinal art. But "definitions" are just conventions, formulas that people agree to. If you had beaten Tracey Emins to the punch and "defined" your messy bed as art, and an "art museum" agreed to exhibit it, many people would call it art. I wouldn't. But that's me.
By the way, MG, a clever enterprising maker of "installations" might install your messy bed, TOGETHER WITH your complaint and make a "theoretical" statement that might thrill SoHo.