What God Truly Is?

Why is it inane, dys? Your graphic does not make me see the color red. I am color blind. I cannot see the color red. You cannot see God. I have experienced God. If you are not color blind, you have experienced the color red. :wink:

It's inane because while you may be colorblind, everyone else in the world that isn't knows what color is, having seen it. If you lined up a swatch of orange, of red, and of green in front of a group of 300 non-color blind people and asked them to point to red, they would point unerringly towards the proper swatch.

You can't put 10 christians from the same congregation in the same room and have them agree on what god is.

Ok ma, from the top one more time. RED exists and is measurable regardless of your seeing it, I think you are confused about the difference between someone's PERCEPTION of red and the physical existence of red. These are different things. RED is measurable by spectral analysis. your god is not measurable by anything other than your perception. There is NO metaphor connecting your red blindness to your belief in your god.

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It's inane because while you may be colorblind, everyone else in the world that isn't knows what color is, having seen it. If you lined up a swatch of orange, of red, and of green in front of a group of 300 non-color blind people and asked them to point to red, they would point unerringly towards the proper swatch.

You can't put 10 christians from the same congregation in the same room and have them agree on what god is.

And this has what to do with explaining the color red?

Ok ma, from the top one more time. RED exists and is measurable regardless of your seeing it, I think you are confused about the difference between someone's PERCEPTION of red and the physical existence of red. These are different things. RED is measurable by spectral analysis. your god is not measurable by anything other than your perception. There is NO metaphor connecting your red blindness to your belief in your god.

Brandon,

So, are you like psychic or something? Or did you just stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night? You keep pronouncing judgments about those professing faith. Why is that?

Again, just because someone disagrees with you that does not automatically make them wrong and you right, does it?[/b][/color]

Apparently nothing. Continue holding to your ridiculous metaphor if you wish.

You people usually fall back on the old crutch that even if you showed us the evidence, we wouldn't accept it. That is merely a cover-up for the fact that you have zero evidence. You believe your childish belief because you need to, and the rest is rationalization.

Brandon,

I am not disagreeing with you that there is right and wrong. What I am telling you is that you assume and project that I am wrong because I do not agree with you or with what you consider standards of evidence.

So, can you explain the color red to me? Or can you explain sight to a blind person that has never seen? Can you explain sound to a deaf person that has never heard? I submit you can't. Now, I have experienced God. I know God exists. I cannot explain it to you. I cannot make you feel or understand God. It's basically the same thing. The only difference is that I see, is you and others are relying on man's definition of evidence, definitions, etc.

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You people usually fall back on the old crutch that even if you showed us the evidence, we wouldn't accept it. That is merely a cover-up for the fact that you have zero evidence. You believe your childish belief because you need to, and the rest is rationalization.

See my response on page 4 of this topic (second one down). As for childish belief, well that is what it is all about. Believing in God requires a sense of innocence and the ability to believe as only a child or one who has been touched by God's hand can. I myself would rather have childish beliefs...which in reality are far more advanced than you seem capable of understanding and nowhere near childish...than to have the constant fear and doubt which plagues you and forces you to essentially condem anyone who does believe in God. If you are so sure that God does not exist then why are you panicked when I say God does exist? Could it be, that deep down you know the truth?

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Apparently nothing. Continue holding to your ridiculous metaphor if you wish.

Ok, try this then. Explain sight to a person born blind. Explain sound to a person born deaf.

Brandon,

You are not listening to me at all, are you? You cannot know what I need. You cannot know if I am fantasizing out of psychological need. You DO NOT know this. You are basing this on the fact that you believe you are correct and I am wrong. You are passing judgment on me.

See the tree how big it's grown but friends it hasn't been too long it was a twig...

in other words something made all these things happen and that something was God.

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See the tree how big it's grown but friends it hasn't been too long it was a twig...

in other words something made all these things happen and that something was God.

What is your reason for believing that it wasn't simply natural processes like evolution? What suggests that it was God and not a more mundane explanation?

I'm certainly passing judgement on what you say. I am evaluating your stated arguments in support of your belief, as I have a perfect right to do. I find them to be invalid. Your sole argument in support of the existence of God is, "I know it, but I can't explain it." That is not a valid argument. Since you cannot provide the tiniest shred of evidence to support your belief, then what is left other than self-deception based on need?