mesquite wrote:ali87 wrote:really? mohammad said kill any jew that falls in to your power? can you provide me a single, just a single verse from the Quran that encourages man to kill "jews" or even kill any, and or even a verse about mohammad wanting to kill jews!
Are you trying to tell me that the study of the life of Muhammad is not an important part of the Islamic religion? Are you trying to tell me that Ibn Ishaq's "Sirat Rasulallah" is not an important and respected source of knowledge about Muhammad?
ali87 wrote:i'm providing you verses that are right from your own bible, yet you can't provide me one single verse from the Quran for me? only "other" books right? i can go and write a hatefull book and a negative and ignorant book towards christianity, and then it becomes truth? right? NO. i will take what you wrote seriously when you provide me a verse from the Quran that encourages and promotes what you said. may Allah bless you and your family
It's not my bible bud, but if you want a Quran verse about killing, here is one.
Quote:"When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful." Sura 9:5
MY RESPONSE: YES I AM SAYING THAT THOSE PPL WHO WROTE SUCH THINGS ABOUT MOHAMMAD WERE ENEMYS OF HIS FAITH, AND ALSO YOU ANSWERED YOUR OWN COMMENTS, IT CLEARLY SAYS IN THE VERSE THAT IF THEY REPENT, THEN LET THEM FREE, FOR GOD IS MOST FORGIVING MOST MERCIFUL, NOW I WILL SHOW YOU A VERSE FROM YOUR BIBLE AND I WANT YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE TO JUSTIFY IT FOR ME.
IT'S ABOUT THE PUNISHMENT OF RAPE IN CHRISTIANITY:
Rape is a big crime that could actually take the woman's or the victim's life away. Let us examine how Christianity deals with the rapist: "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. (From the NIV Bible, Deuteronomy 22:28)" Although this Verse from the Bible only talks about virgins, but its the only verse in the entire Bible that talks about raping single women. Not to be biased or anything, but the Bible seems to have quite weird things in it that are quite irrational and quite ridiculous. Deuteronomy 22:28 forces the raped woman to marry her rapist. My question to the writers of the Bible is why in the world would any raped female victim want to be in the same town, not the same bedroom !! with her rapist?.
Also, the Bible seems to promote raping of single women: "But if out in the country a man happens to meet a girl pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. (From the NIV Bible, Deuteronomy 22:25)" This is quite an interesting verse. We see in Deuteronomy 22:28 that if a man rapes a single woman then she will be forced to be his wife, while if a man rapes a married woman or a woman who is spoken for, in Deuteronomy 22:25, then he shall be put to death. There is absolutely no punishment for the rapist of a single woman in the Bible. For those Christians who think that they don't have to follow the Old Testament, well my answer to them is this: The Old Testament prohibits for the brother to marry his sister, or for the son to marry his mother. The New Testament doesn't even talk about it. Does that mean that a Christian brother can marry his sister? or a Christian son can marry his mother? Jesus himself anyway ordered his followers to follow the Old Testament, so their argument is totally invalid.
Question to Jews and Christians: How is the Bible supposed to prevent some loser from stalking the most beautiful single woman in town, rape her, and then sue her in court to become his wife so he can continue raping her for the rest of her life?!
REMEMBER THAT IS NOT A "TRADITION" ITS LAWS MADE BY YOUR GOD, I WANT WOMEN TO READ IT AND TELL ME IF GOD IS "JUST" AND "FAIR" FOR MAKING THOSE LAWS IN THE BIBLE. NO, I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THOSE ARE GOD'S LAWS, THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY DRUNKARD BASTARDS THAT CORRUPTED THE MAIN MESSAGE: THE DIVINITY OF "ONE" GOD.
