The bygone days of S&R

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There are a number of threads that are discussing the 'current climate' on S&R. As a fairly new poster to this forum, drawn in I admit by the desire to offer opinions on a few of the more passionate topics, I'm curious about 'before'.

I understand the comments about the way things are 'now' and I've seen a few references to the days of yore but I really don't have a feel for what is was in comparison to what it is?

I wasn't around to read many of Frank's posts. I'm guessing they were passionate, but were they different than what we have now? Are there other passionate posters who were here before and how was it different?

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Where the heck did Frank go anyways?

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Frank Apisa last spotted.....

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1774144&highlight=#1774144

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Frank told me in an email he would possibly return one day. He said it just wasn't worth it right now.

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edgarblythe wrote:

Frank told me in an email he would possibly return one day. He said it just wasn't worth it right now.

Sorry to hear that, he is missed...let him know that if you get the opportunity.

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edgarblythe wrote:

Frank told me in an email he would possibly return one day.

Hey, that sounds familiar...

Shocked

<runnnning------>!>

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Frank is passionate, but lacks the acuity of Setanta, timber, Dok, farmer, Brandon and many other non believers. Still, I miss his classic rants.

Some may wish the believers were more articulate; but there are a few who hold the pen well. Not to mention the fact that many non theists are sadly lacking in rhetorical skills.

Perhaps we should all be willing to take it upon ourselves to help each other, teaching logical development instead of hurling esoteric effluent at the educationally challenged

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There is the matter of tiring to consider. There are only so many times most people want to repeat themselves. People on all facets of all sides can find their interest in explaining their views wear down with repetition. Very few posters ever review past thread history. People who have labored to explicate their views as thoughtfully as they can see them become history fast, and new posters ask the same sort of thing in multiples. Frank, for example, has been a stalwart trouper for his views for years. He does have an actual life besides all this .

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Hey, the CHS gang finally found a new home. Maybe they graduated.

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Perhaps we should first teach the search feature.

But there are always new folks who come to the forum expecting to find experts.

I learned a lot here. I'd like to give something back.

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neologist wrote:

Frank is passionate, but lacks the acuity of Setanta, timber, Dok, farmer, Brandon and many other non believers. Still, I miss his classic rants.

Some may wish the believers were more articulate; but there are a few who hold the pen well. Not to mention the fact that many non theists are sadly lacking in rhetorical skills.

Perhaps we should all be willing to take it upon ourselves to help each other, teaching logical development instead of hurling esoteric effluent at the educationally challenged

Interesting neo, is it a lack of development in logical debate that is different? Does a discussion of S&R depend on logic?

Osso, I hear you about repetitions, but that is the bain of most forums.

There are a number of topics that I would like to see developed, but they seem to pop up and hit page 2 within the hour.

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based on the other topics of interest at the moment, I see my timing is impeccable Laughing

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Well, some threads catches fire and some doesn't. You could do as I do, and keep putting them out there, until some catch on.

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J_B wrote:

neologist wrote:
Frank is passionate, but lacks the acuity of Setanta, timber, Dok, farmer, Brandon and many other non believers. Still, I miss his classic rants.

Some may wish the believers were more articulate; but there are a few who hold the pen well. Not to mention the fact that many non theists are sadly lacking in rhetorical skills.

Perhaps we should all be willing to take it upon ourselves to help each other, teaching logical development instead of hurling esoteric effluent at the educationally challenged

Interesting neo, is it a lack of development in logical debate that is different? Does a discussion of S&R depend on logic?

Osso, I hear you about repetitions, but that is the bain of most forums.

There are a number of topics that I would like to see developed, but they seem to pop up and hit page 2 within the hour.

It's hard to say. Some serious topics have staying power, such as the evolution discussion. But, mostly it seems to be the emotional outbursts that get attention while topics requiring thought die off.

Don't you think?

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Does that mean that emotion wins out over logic?

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Here, in the S& R forum, except for a few threads on Tao and the like...everyone is having an atheist vs theist battle Sad

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Nothing else is ever discussed.....

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Hey, the CHS gang finally found a new home. Maybe they graduated.

No, things just settled down around here; but we only have about five months before graduation.

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Perhaps we should all be willing to take it upon ourselves to help each other, teaching logical development instead of hurling esoteric effluent at the educationally challenged

I totally agree Neo....this is probably why the human race has so many problems; we would rather argue than discuss.

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My 2 cents is that the current National political climate surrounding theism has frustrated the atheist camp, feeling a little of a minority on a national level and recently feeling that creep in on A2K the atheist Island does not seem as much an island as it may have a few months ago, and very possibly a few organized uprisings became the recent uproar.

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Intrepid wrote:

Does that mean that emotion wins out over logic?

or maybe rhetoric trumps dialectic.

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Husker, you've been around for years. I'm not sure if you've been on the R&S forum for years, but perhaps you've been reading along. What's different? Are you saying that only recently have there been any professed Christians on S&R?

I'm trying to get an understanding if the contentions are new or if it's simply the personalities that are new.

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