lets pray for our troops

Ticomaya wrote:

dlowan wrote:

Do you actually believe, Tico, (whatever the theology of it), that there is no difference between christians praying together where they have come together for that purpose, and placing this type of thread on a public bulletin board...or, for that matter, their praying together in a church, or someone's home, and their getting together in a group to pray loudly in, say, the middle of a large shopping mall?

I actually believe that when the title of the thread is "let's pray for our troops," assuming the purpose of the thread was was just that, that it is a call to come together and pray. I see it as an invitation to pray ... and invitation that one has no compulsion to accept. I find that decidedly different than a group of folks gathering together in the middle of a large shopping mall to pray loudly.

Other than that there is no sound here, how is it different?

Also:

"Do you actually believe, Tico, (whatever the theology of it), that there is no difference between christians praying together where they have come together for that purpose, and placing this type of thread on a public bulletin board."

I am interested to hear your answer to the question.

You have, as you often do, chosen to go off on a quibble, rather than simply answer a question.

In your first example, certainly the believers present could not be faulted for willfully praying and worshipping in public. The point, which you refuse to acknowledge, is that there is a substantive difference between beleivers worshipping in a discrete group, and doing so in a venue known to be open to a wider population--in short, to the public.

Q wrote:

And are we now comparing Paul with Jesus?

Setanta is.

Setanta wrote:

In your first example, certainly the believers present could not be faulted for willfully praying and worshipping in public. The point, which you refuse to acknowledge, is that there is a substantive difference between beleivers worshipping in a discrete group, and doing so in a venue known to be open to a wider population--in short, to the public.

Do you believe Christians should pray in Church or not? Because there are often non-believers in Church. Do you think Christ taught us that those prayers are forbidden?

What is the difference in what Jesus taught ... in your view?

If non believers go to a church, they are clearly choosing to do so, and to be exposed to the prayers.



What has that to do with public prayer where people cannot choose whether to witness the prayers or not?

Oh Goody! It's our GOD against their GOD!! How exciting ... I wonder whose GOD will win.

This is ancient thought ... the people with the strongest GODS wins. Oh, WOW!!!!

Anon

Ticomaya wrote:

Setanta wrote:

In your first example, certainly the believers present could not be faulted for willfully praying and worshipping in public. The point, which you refuse to acknowledge, is that there is a substantive difference between beleivers worshipping in a discrete group, and doing so in a venue known to be open to a wider population--in short, to the public.

Do you believe Christians should pray in Church or not? Because there are often non-believers in Church. Do you think Christ taught us that those prayers are forbidden?

What is the difference in what Jesus taught ... in your view?

As far as I see that is a silly straw man.

And, I note you want yes or no answers from OTHERS.

If non believers go to a church, they are clearly choosing to do so, and to be exposed to the prayers.

What has that to do with public prayer where people cannot choose whether to witness the prayers or not?

Christians praying in church is consonant with the "whenever two or three come together in my name" passage, and as i have already pointed out, the issue is the venue, not idiotic quibbling over who is or is not present, and in what numbers.

dlowan wrote:

If non believers go to a church, they are clearly choosing to do so, and to be exposed to the prayers.



What has that to do with public prayer where people cannot choose whether to witness the prayers or not?

DL,

This point is lost on the Great Tico. ... as many things are lost to him. It's obvious that just because one has the intellect to become an attorney, it doesn't mean they have any common sense.

Anon

Dagmaraka,

I thought I would answer your question for you about is it the same God.

No, it is not, though yes, Muslims, etc., will say it is. It is not the same, as the God of the Bible has a Son, Jesus Christ, the Messiah. The Muslims do not believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah. I think they believe Muhammed is higher than Christ would be, but I am not positive. I can't speak a lot of what they believe, mind you, but I do know that Allah and God are not the same God.

I would imagine that all those that call upon God call upon the God they believe is the only God and in that respect only would I consider them the same. And if that made any sense I'm surprised. I just woke up from a nap.

Anon-Voter wrote:

dlowan wrote:

If non believers go to a church, they are clearly choosing to do so, and to be exposed to the prayers.



What has that to do with public prayer where people cannot choose whether to witness the prayers or not?

DL,

This point is lost on the Great Tico. ... as many things are lost to him. It's obvious that just because one has the intellect to become an attorney, it doesn't mean they have any common sense.

Anon

Could someone point out who "Anon-Voter" reincarnated from? The style is familiar, but I can't put my finger on it.