Do I sound crazy yet???

gv, You must tell us; are you crazy yet? c.i.

Actually, im inside a padded cell. I wonder, do you believe me??

Hmm, from the poetry, you sound 14 years old...the jury is still out on crazy though....

You're good, I'm 18.

gv, I don't believe anything I hear and only half of what I see - sometimes. c.i.

heh heh, on another board last night, someone actually called me psychic...but I don't talk about that

gvapid, are you a fan of French Symbolist poetry, i.e. Rimbaud, Baudelaire, Verlaine? Antonin Artaud, another one who actually was crazy...if you don't know these dead dudes, you should look em up, especially Rimbaud. Think you might like it.

I wonder cavfancier... do you have some strange obsession with insanity?
Remind me to look up the late insane poets.

CI, if you were to hear voices in your head and have pictures in your minds eye and you don't believe anything you hear and 1/2 of what you see, is it safe to say that you are insane. Come on, almost 90% sure that cavfancier and I are 100% insane. Join us....

Muahaha...yes...join us....

gv, All of us are a little crazy. Didn't you know that? It's a matter of degree and what society in our environment will accept. When does the party start? c.i.

Feeling
By the blue evenings of summer, I will go in the paths,
Picoté by corns, to press small grass:
Dreamer, I will smell freshness with my feet it.
I will let the wind bathe my naked head.

I will not speak, I will not think anything:
But the infinite love will assemble me in the heart,
And I will be far, well far, like a gipsy,
By Nature, - happy as with a woman.

March 1870. (Rimbaud)

cf. I looked up that French poet and from this poem, he doesn't sound very insane. I had the page translated to english. I'm young and naive so i'm not sure if my interpretation of the poem was correct. What do you make of it? Do you have any favorites?

Check out this link, gv, and start with 'Saison en Enfer', 'A Season in Hell'. It is already translated: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/8161/rimbaud.html

Rimbaud started writing in grade school, by 18, he was dead, and there was quite the life in between.

Oops, my mistake, he did make it to 37...just read the bio.

What the @#*!
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What was that. I read a day in hell and bad blood. I think he was insane or a satan worshipper. Maybe it was the insanity talking. i don't get it. Was he trying to be good but couldn't control himself? THe scariest part about his writing was that he continues to have conversations with satan. Being Christian, I am uncomfortable with his type of poetry. It might even offend me except for the fact that he was insane.

He was a bit of a nutbar, that is for sure....also liked to shock people.

Even paranoids have real enemies.

Time is the school in which we learn,
time is the fire in which we burn.

In this our life there are no beginnings but
only departures entitled beginnings,
wreathed in the formal emotions thought
to be appropriate and often forced.

Love is the most difficult and
dangerous form of courage.

In dreams begin responsibilities

-Delmore Shwartz

Delmore Shcwartz was a brilliant American poet who sadly died insane and penniless in a fleagbag motel. He was also Lou Reed's english teacher in college, and was a huge influence on Lou. If the above poem is more to your liking, this link has a whole bunch more. Actually, the site is a great poetry reference in general.

http://plagiarist.com/poetry/?aid=176

Insanity is merely a matter of opinion, dressed in a robe of institutional tradition.

Any idea that breaks away from the "common" wisdom, begins as insanity, and slowly progresses through eventual acceptance, to fact, to ancient myth.

Schwartz sounds like more of my style, if I had one. I am not good at being shocked. I cant understand how such great poets could have been pennieless.