dagmaraka wrote:oh, i see. so if people would like to, hypothetically, hang cats by their tails and rip legs and tails out of them, they should be allowed, because they come first... i see your logic. it is brilliant.
Well, you know me, I am the savage cat killer of A2K.
There was an item on licensing in one of those links.
Nobody is doing aerial hunting that isn't state sponsored, perhaps to protect their tourism industry.
Chuck Yeager used to shoot deer with his fighter, then report their position to his unit, so they could pick them up for dinner.
whether it is sponsored by the government or not, it's still hunting and people chose to do it.
cjhsa wrote:k, you are confusing government sponsored predator controls with hunting.
Nobody is buying any aerial hunting licenses these days.
Are you two sitting in the same room?
who's talking about aerial hunting? in fact, what are you talking about?
Perhaps this whole conversation should stop on this thread and be picked up elsewhere.
or not picked up at all again
No, it isn't hunting, any more than poaching is hunting.
Hunters buy licenses, buy billions of dollars worth of stuff, and are the reason there are conservation societies, and flyways, and conservancies...
Animal righties are a product of the last thirty years. Too many mind altering drugs will do that.
To me, there's not much difference between poaching and hunting. The difference is one of a law, not a lifstyle, not a sense of what's fair and right.
Well, that shows a great deal of misconception on your part. I wish I could change that.
right. who needs animals? let's hand out guns to everybody. nature-shmature. let's kill them out. oh, and the immigrants, too, while we're at it.
You know, as a gardener, I always feel sad when I have to rip up the plants in the fall that have sustained me through the summer, and stocked me for winter. But, that's the way it has to be.
dagmaraka wrote:right. who needs animals? let's hand out guns to everybody. nature-shmature. let's kill them out. oh, and the immigrants, too, while we're at it.
I'm sorry you have no concept of wildlife management. Most of the places I've lived, with the possible exception of Massachusetts, have extensive programs, financed by .... guess who ... hunters and fisherman!
wildlife management, and trapping animals to shoot them in enclosed farms, are two vastly different things. that's what the debate was about.
I guess I didn't realize that was what we were arguing about. Does that go back to the salmon?
What is wrong with hunting in enclosed spaces? My neighbor in northern MI has high fence deer operation. The place is HUGE - thousands of acres. The deer he has in there live much better lives than any of the wild deer outside of the fence. For one thing, they never encounter cars, or starvation, or poachers.
look at the photo of the coyotees. that's what's wrong. there is no fair play in that. isn't hunting supposed to be fair play? i thought it was.
i ain't vegetarian, i eat hunted venison- when i know the conditions of how hunting is regulated, etc... no problem there.
Compared to what the normal outcome would be for a captured coyote, that seems like fair play to me.
well, we'll just disagree again.
The pheasants are back and we see a fox every now and then.
We haven't seen many deer this year, but we have some new raccoons around.
those coyotes will fare better in captivity than in their natural state...they'll be used to train hunting dogs and live a life of luxury compared to their normal circumstances...
