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Wildlife in Your Life

 
 
sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 03:15 pm
rosborne979 wrote:


We have Coopers Hawks and Sharp Shinned Hawks around here. They are difficult to tell apart. We also have Red Tailed Hawks, but they are much larger. The Red Tails soar a lot and rarely come into the woods. The Coopers and Sharp Shinned Hawks however will fly at full speed through the thickest woods. It's amazing to see them flashing through the trees (without hitting anything).


Cool...

Yeah, I'm not certain it was a Cooper's Hawk as opposed to Sharp-Shinned. Of the photos I saw, though, Cooper's seemed to fit better. This photo especially, with the ramrod-straight posture (perpendicular to the ground).
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 03:16 pm
Green Witch wrote:
coluber2001 wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
I had several of these pay me a visit while deer hunting this past fall.


The bald eagle has made a remarkable comeback since the outlawing of DDT. They're a wonderful sight to see.


(Ignoring silly post above)

I live in an area in which the Eagle population was destroyed by the use of DDT.... .


Educate yourself:

http://www.junkscience.com/ddtfaq.html
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jespah
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 04:31 pm
Neither the time nor the place. Open a new topic if you want to discuss such things. Thank you.
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 05:48 pm
Jespah, don't encourage him! He's already started a thousand of them (for those who need help with such things, that was an exageration).
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 06:28 pm
sozobe wrote:
Yeah, I'm not certain it was a Cooper's Hawk as opposed to Sharp-Shinned. Of the photos I saw, though, Cooper's seemed to fit better. This photo especially, with the ramrod-straight posture (perpendicular to the ground).


Got both of 'em around here - yours, seeming to be more gray on the back, prolly was a Cooper's; the Sharp Shinned tend to be more brownish -

http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/9089/ssharpshinnedhl8.jpg
Cooper's Hawk on the left, Sharp Shinned Hawk on the right.

Prolly tacky to post this next one, so I'll just do a thumbnail (and don't click if you're squeamish) but with eagles are in mind -

eagle (Bald) vs aircraft (C-130)

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1855/c130vsbaldeagleey5.th.jpg
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 06:40 pm
The picture I posted isn't of the guy I saw, I just got that via Google.

I saw the hawk in my yard, then turned to my trusty (and well-thumbed) bird book to figure out what kind since I didn't recognize it. Cooper's Hawk seemed to fit best, then I Googled "Cooper's Hawk" and the picture I posted was the picture, of many "Cooper's Hawk" results, that looked most like the bird I saw. The posture is just right, especially.

The prevailing color was definitely gray as opposed to brown (he had his back to me), pretty sure it's a Cooper's but since I didn't in fact take a picture, have only my memory to go by.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 06:48 pm
timberlandko wrote:
Got both of 'em around here - yours, seeming to be more gray on the back, prolly was a Cooper's; the Sharp Shinned tend to be more brownish -


Unfortunately (for ease of identification), the immature Coopers Hawks have a lot of brown in them.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 06:52 pm
rosborne979 wrote:
Unfortunately (for ease of identification), the immature Coopers Hawks have a lot of brown in them.

Huh! Interesting - makes sense, really, but it never occurred to me. Thanks for the info.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 07:01 pm
So, based on the (lack of) quoting skills by other members, apparently I now bait bald eagles with DDT while deer hunting.

Yup.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 07:08 pm
cjhsa wrote:
So, based on the (lack of) quoting skills by other members, apparently I now bait bald eagles with DDT while deer hunting.
Probably with a 12 gauge browning semi.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 10:18 pm
timberlandko wrote:
rosborne979 wrote:
Unfortunately (for ease of identification), the immature Coopers Hawks have a lot of brown in them.

Huh! Interesting - makes sense, really, but it never occurred to me. Thanks for the info.


They also have seasonal variation. Here is a link on identifying these 'Accipiter Hawks'. I can identify most birds by body style, or 'gestalt' as well as plumage. But I've seen both these hawks in my area (one of them took a blue jay right off my feeder), and they are very hard to distinguish. If they sit still long enough you can usually figure it out, but they don't like to be stared at for very long.

As the link says, "Therefore, perhaps more than any other similar-looking pair, no single field mark is likely to distinguish one species from the other. Instead, the careful observer must use a combination of field marks and draw from the overall "gestalt" of the hawk for proper identification. No field guide will substitute plenty of practice in the field for this pair."
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 10:22 pm
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6659/ttkkz1.jpg
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 10:58 pm
Great link, ros - gonna dig through that website with interest. Thanks again.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 11:05 pm
timberlandko wrote:
Great link, ros - gonna dig through that website with interest. Thanks again.

My pleasure.

The Feederwatch program is fun. My father participates. One of these days, when I have time to count birds I'll probably do it also.

Best Regards,
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 09:24 am
dyslexia wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
So, based on the (lack of) quoting skills by other members, apparently I now bait bald eagles with DDT while deer hunting.
Probably with a 12 gauge browning semi.


I never knew eagles ate Brownings. I'll have to try that next time.

Nice job on the quote BTW.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Sat 24 Feb, 2007 10:25 am
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9491/fggc4.jpg
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jespah
 
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Reply Sat 24 Feb, 2007 10:39 am
That frog stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night, eh?
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 24 Feb, 2007 12:26 pm
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6636/youngbaldyredfoxwk5.jpg
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jespah
 
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Reply Sat 24 Feb, 2007 01:06 pm
Is that a raptor of some sort?
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 24 Feb, 2007 01:08 pm
timberlandko wrote:
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6636/youngbaldyredfoxwk5.jpg

That's why we call them "chicken hawks."
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