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Killers walk free

 
 
Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 28 Nov, 2005 06:02 pm
Are they able to consequently charge them with a deliberate murder? Does jeopardy apply?
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Tue 29 Nov, 2005 03:21 pm
Wilso wrote:
Are they able to consequently charge them with a deliberate murder? Does jeopardy apply?


No to the first question; yes to the second question.

The state may not place the defendant in jeopardy a second time for the same crime. In the one-on-one killing cases at issue, the state initially tried the defendants for BOTH intentional murder and depraved indifference murder. The defendants were acquitted of intentional murder, but convicted of depraved indifference murder.

A charge of depraved indifference murder generally does not apply to one-on-one killings as a matter of law. When a defendant is acquitted of intentional murder and successfully gets his depraved indifference murder overturned, the defendant cannot be tried for murder again.
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Tue 29 Nov, 2005 03:49 pm
au1929 wrote:
Why couldn't he have been charged with murder which he did indeed commit? What difference does it make if he committed it with depraved indifference or what ever. Yeah I know it's the law. As ridiculous as it apparently is.


I answered these questions in my previous posts.

In the state of NY, there exist two classes of second-degree murder:

1) Intentional Murder; and
2) Depraved Indifference Murder.

The charge of intentional murder applies to one-on-one killings and the state must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant specifically intended to kill the actual victim.

The charge of depraved indifference murder generally applies to situations OTHER THAN one-on-one killings where the defendant is not targeting a specific victim, but rather, where the defendant's conduct (e.g., shooting into a crowd of people, letting loose a vicious lion) demonstrates a depraved indifference to to life.

Another example of depraved indifference murder: If an offender places a bomb in a public place, it explodes, and the person nearest the explosion is killed--the state cannot prove that the offender specifically intended to kill the person who was actually killed. Therefore, a charge of intentional murder would not apply. However, the law provides that some acts demonstrate a depraved indifference to life and should be punished as severely as intentional murder.

It is improper to blend and mix the two different categories of murder. It isn't sufficient to constitute "depraved indifference murder" to merely assert that the defendant's shooting of a specific victim, even if the defendant didn't intend to kill the victim, constitutes a depraved indifference to life. That's NOT the law. In a one-on-one killing, if the offender did not intend to kill the victim, he is not guilty of murder--he is guilty of the lesser included offense of manslaughter.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 29 Nov, 2005 03:57 pm
au1929 wrote:
It would appear that technicalities carry more weight in our justice system than justice.

As well they should. While these technicalities create injustice, we know from painful experience that ignoring legal technicalities for the sake of a higher good creates more injustice. It's an imperfect world, but as Phoenix points out, this is the least bad system there is.
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