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BIODIESEL, Try it youll like it.

 
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2005 06:46 pm
Damn it, LTX's response prevents me from editing--Izumo sailed for the Pacific Coast of Canada in 1914. The English began to expand their Asiatic Squadron in response to the new Russian Asiatic Squadron in 1860.
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LionTamerX
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2005 06:48 pm
Sorry about that, chief.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2005 06:49 pm
No problem, Boss . . . nice chapeau, by the by . . .
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2005 06:51 pm
Quote:
Spendius never has any more idea of what he is talking about than we do--i wouldn't worry about it if i were you.


Oh yes he does.He knows about how we are tricked into looking ridiculous as male monkeys by superior intelligences in fishnet stockings,which we produce on production lines,invented by a creator who was stuck for a good laugh.
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LionTamerX
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2005 06:52 pm
Thank you,

That's some pretty nifty headgear yerself.
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2005 07:02 pm
Oh-I don't know LT.It seems pretty simple and obvious to me.

I hear the sirens calling.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2005 09:13 pm
Jim Bulloch couldnt buy a dead horse for trying, everytime he had some boats ready to buy, the US would conveniently win a battle and make the British and then the French change their minds about releasing the boats he was "watching" being built for the Egyptians or the DAnes.Course he did get one boat from the French The appropriately named STONEWALL, because that is apparently how she sailed as a bigass hevy prowed ironclad ram.

Set, an additional boat I had listed was the Fingal, was it merely reoutfitted or built ? It was acquired by Bulloch before the Alabama or the Florida.

So that made a grand total of 4 boATS THAT Bulloch got and the Stonewall missed the entire war I believe. I think it was that hard to sail and was so slow
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2005 04:45 am
I acknowledge that i've never heard of Fingal, i could research it--it i weren't so damned lazy. At all events, it wouldn't change the basic fact that it is inaccurate to describe England as supporting the southern Confederacy.

Jim Bulloch's baby sister married Theodore Roosevelt, Sr., and between them two, we got TR--arguably the most popular President in US history . . .
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2005 10:56 am
Despite the hardships of the cotton famine, the cotton workers in Lancashire supported Lincoln...

There is a statue of Abraham Lincoln in Manchester, my home city.

extract from

http://www.virtualmanchester.com/features/manchesters.php

reads

Lancashire cotton famine
1861-1865

The statue commemorates the support that the working people of Manchester gave in the fight for the abolition of slavery during the American civil war.

By supporting the Union under President Lincoln at a time when there was an economic blockade of the southern states, the Lancashire cotton workers were denied access to raw cotton which caused considerable unemployment throughout the cotton industry.

Extracts of President Lincoln's letter to the working people of Manchester thanking them for their help are reproduced around the statue's plinth...

EXTRACT OF AN ADDRESS FROM THE WORKING PEOPLE OF MANCHESTER TO HIS EXCELLENCY ABRAHAM LINCOLN, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA... Free trade hall public meeting, 31 December 1862,
Chairman: Abel Heywood

"...the vast progress which you have made in the short space of twenty months fills us with hope that every stain on your freedom will shortly be removed, and that the erasure of that foul blot on civilisation and Chritianity - chattel slavery - during your presidency, will cause the name of Abraham Lincoln to be honoured and revered by posterity. We are certain that such a glorious consummation will cement Great Britain and the United States in close and enduring regards."

EXTRACT OF THE PRESIDENT'S LETTER IN RESPONSE TO THE WORKING PEOPLE OF MANCHESTER, 19 JANUARY, 1863
"...I know and deeply deplore the sufferings which the working people of Manchester and in all Europe are called to endure in this crisis. It has been often and studiously represented that the attempt to overthrow this Government which was built on the foundation of human rights, and to substitute for it one which should rest exclusively on the basis of slavery, was likely to obtain the favour of Europe.

Through the action of disloyal citizens, the working people of Europe have been subjected to a severe trial for the purpose of forcing their sanction to that attempt. Under the circumstances I cannot but regard your decisive utterances on the question as an instance of sublime Christian heroism which has not been surpassed in any age or in any country. It is indeed an energetic and re-inspiring assurance of the inherent truth and of the ultimate and universal triumph of justice, humanity and freedom.

I hail this interchange of sentiments, therefore, as an augury that, whatever else may happen, whatever misfortune may befall your country or my own, the peace and friendship which now exists between the two nations will be, as it shall be my desire to make them, perpetual."

Abraham Lincoln January 19, 1863.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2005 11:26 am
some great posts here btw, thanks. Spendi you still on the Theakstone's mild?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2005 11:53 am
QED--Palmerston's government would not have survived any appreicable effort to support the southern Confederacy . . . good lookin' out, Steve, as us 'Mericans like to say these days . . .
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2005 12:05 pm
This attitude on the part of English mill workers was not a mere epidode, either. In the late 1920's, Ghandi called for a boycott of English goods, and especially, this affected the mill workers, as Ghandi took a loom to weave cloth at home--the loss of the revenues from the boycott of English cotton goods worked a substantial hardship on the millworkers.

Nevertheless, when Ghandi visited England in 1930, he was enthusiastically greeted by the millworkers of Lancashire, who were impressed with his sincerity, and lent their support to his movement for Indian independence.

http://rena.wao.com/gandhi/jpg/GGS99.jpg
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2005 12:28 pm
Ya know why the Brits drink warm beer?
Lucas makes their refrigerators, too.

What do British motorcycles and British dogs have in common?
Both of 'em rack up most of their mileage in the beds of pickup trucks

I dunno ... Rich though it is, the field of Britbashing just doesn't really do it for me. I think the French are much more worthy subjects for that sorta excercize. I am adamant they should never be forgiven for the Renault Dauphine.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2005 01:01 pm
timber wrote-

Quote:
Ya know why the Brits drink warm beer?


I know you're only kidding but that can't stand in a printed record without correction.Some innocents of tender years are not up with your wit and might believe it and it is for their benefit that I post this.

I have never drunk warm beer in a long career and I know of no-one who would tolerate it.How would you like it if I said that Yanks had small,softish feet because their shoes were too tight and unyielding.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2005 01:34 pm
Having small, softish feet (US 8½ EE on a 200-pound-plus frame - about 14½ Stone to you odd-and-senseless measurement types over there), I'd take no umbrage. I'd dispute, however, the assertion my shoes were too tight; mine are well and appropriately sized, and some of my boots even are custom-made to fit.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2005 01:47 pm
timberlandko wrote:
Ya know why the Brits drink warm beer?
Lucas makes their refrigerators, too.

This reads like a good excuse to post one of my favorite Adam Smith quotes yet another time. It shows not just what a long tradition of sucking American beer has, but also how strongly people felt about privacy as a liberty right.

Adam Smith wrote:
A fermented liquor, for example, which is called beer, but which, as it is made of molasses, bears very little resemblance to our beer, makes a considerable part of the common drink of the people in America. This liquor, as it can be kept only for a few days, cannot, like our beer, be prepared and stored up for sale in great breweries; but every private family must brew it for their own use, in the same manner as they cook their victuals. But to subject every private family to the odious visits and examination of the tax-gatherers, in the same manner as we subject the keepers of alehouses and the brewers for public sale, would be altogether inconsistent with liberty.

Neat, huh?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2005 01:51 pm
Silly, that's for sure. It is always hilarious to see the descriptions of America by those who either never visited, or cruised through in a few weeks, and became instant experts. Dickens is a real knee-slapper . . .

If i am not mistaken, and i did a quick web search to be certain, Adam Smith never set foot on the North American continent . . .
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2005 02:09 pm
You can't really blame him under the circumstances.
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AliceInWonderland
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2005 02:09 pm
farmerman - if you're serious about making biodiesel and having an employee do the work, you may be setting yourself up for some serious liability issues, particularly if your employee is merely following a recipe without an understanding of what he is doing. These "garage batch" operations can be very ugly in terms of safety and waste disposal.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2005 02:13 pm
Just a guess, here, Alice, but I'd wager fm has thought that far - and further - ahead. He's sorta like that.
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