AngeliqueEast's Poems

Thanks osso, was just thinking of that one. If I remember right, lots of Cav in it, which actually gave me pause when I thought of looking for it -- always makes me sad.

You call it CC, I don't! I'm not going to spend hours arguing with you!
I want this thread to disappear is what I want! :wink:

Oh pleasssssssssssss

Some of the stuff said here was not honest, just mean!

I'm not going to argue anymore!!!

Hmmm.

OK.

To anyone else interested, it was a thread with a lot of Cav in it. I ended up crying at the end rereading it just now..



On constructive criticism, I've been through a lot of it in my landscape architecture schooling. Most people who made it through ended up reeling from it at some time or another. I can see where Angelique thought this was harsh - I didn't particularly - it was the person's opinion, a person who may well have some background that makes him or her worth listening to, even if one doesn't end up agreeing.

Personally I think that this is a multifaceted original writing forum, and that a lot don't want any criticism, or not for particular Topic posts and ok for others, depending on their motive for posting in the first place. Another whole bunch are interested in criticism. I suppose if we really don't want it we should say so, as it is a writing forum.

I posted some travel diaries, I think, and little else. Those diaries could use some cutting by at least half, or three fourths, yet some additions of, perhaps, visual sensations. They are works in progress.

This reminds me that I recently announced my house was in escrow to about fifteen friends via a short poem. Six wrote back surprised I wrote poetry or thanking me for the words in some way; at least three people were clearly irritated, described me as enigmatic - they are my most linear thinking pals; and the rest took it as a seemingly usual sort of message.
Interesting how people sort out.. and keep resorting.

I read the thread you posted some time ago osso.

I didn't know Robert Frost either.
Here's the thing and I write "here's the thing" to prove to you that you I am indeed a wordsmith to be reckoned with.
I don't know if you have written professionally and while some may excoriate me for putting Copywriting (TV/Radio Commercials/Print) (Ah yes, News Writing too) in the same league as the struggling writer of poetry or other literary endeavors, I have always been a writer from the first day I was able to string two sentences together.
As an individual that constantly seeks approval (perhaps egomaniac with an inferiority complex is more accurate)I chose a profession that constantly pit me against other writers and creative people in general.
While I won more than my fair share of campaigns and ultimately became a Creative Director I also learned that my opinions about my own output at times was not what counted and listening to criticism was the key to improvement?-pragmatically, spiritually and artistically.
A few years back I wrote and composed a musical biography about Poe.
"The best thing to come to Broadway in ages" both myself and my collaborator were certain.
We were lucky, some of the top producers on Broadway had the chance to listen to the score and read the book. That was 10 years ago, there was some praise and there was some criticism, but there is no Musical about EAP on Broadway as we speak.
Currently I'm writing a book about a former NYC Detective?-his life story not cops and robbers?-I've had several editors opine on it
Once again, praise, once again criticism
If you can't accept those two integral components of creativity perhaps you need to start taking an accounting course
Cheers
t

tcb--

Welcome to A2K. You have perspective.

AE--

I will not give you unqualified adulation. Would you prefer constructive criticism or silence?

Thanks for the welcome Noddy24 and your nice words
t

I don't want anything from you Noddy or tcb got it! As far as I'm concern this thread is closed.

Angelique, this is why your poetry is sub-par. You're like a child, shunning anyone who tells you your writing isn't fabulous. Prepare to stay at the same quality level for many years to come.

People it was only thirteen words! Two sentences! This is getting carried away. Both sides are in the right.

I can inderstand why tcb is upset. He was apparently trying to help and instead had his critisizm shunned and denied.

Also, I can see why AE would be upset at someone telling her she doesn't write from the heart, as it's very, very difficult for another person to tell if what someone wrote is from their heart or not; no one can know the ways of someone elses heart.

You are both right from your own point of view. Indeed, you both have validity and reason to be upset, but it's just turning into a big brawl. Now, you don't have to listen to me, but please, everyone just leave it alone.

I have no idea what you are talking about thirteen words.

A jewel count of supposed derogation?

This is a storm about little.

One does get to make negative comments here. Period.

Certanly people with a background in writing do.

doing a dying camellia isn't very useful. Sorry, angelique. I like you and want you to keep working, but get over this stuff.

Crazy Diamond Wrote: : I can inderstand why tcb is upset

I am?

Maybe not, sorry. Just forget I said anything...

CDiamond Wrote: Maybe not, sorry. Just forget I said anything...
TCBWrites:
But on the other hand, your comments were cogent and I appreciate your support
t