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The beginning of the end? (For Tony Blair)

 
 
Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2006 04:27 am
people are certainly going out of their way to frustrate TB's legislation. They see it as a way of getting rid of TB.

thanks for the summaries ref Brit leaders nimh. The trouble is just when people think TB cant recover from this or that, he does. And I think the reason he does is that when people actually listen to what he has to say, instead of just reacting against TB as a person, he talks a lot of sense imo. Damn him.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2006 08:39 am
Well, Gordon Brown will be in a foul mood today...

Blair's admission of error is really a declaration of war
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2006 02:42 pm
A lot is been speculated just now, when Blair will quit:
- after the May elections, [well, might be, depends a lot on Gordon Brown's moves against Blair]
- at the party conference in October, [if he has survied until then - not at all]
- on his 10-year anniversary as leader next May, [perhaps]
- when he outstrips Thatcher's record in power (November 2008), [that would look like a kindergarden play IMHO]
- 2010 (as mooted by Peter Hain), [no]
- when the NHS-crisis is resolved, [well, he won't stay in office THAT long!]

So, since many Labour members want him to go NOW, he's got a very loyal Cabinet. And he'll stay in office as long as he can get away with it (first sign of the ending period will be, when Steve becomes slower and weaker with his support :wink: ).
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2006 04:05 pm
"(first sign of the ending period will be, when Steve becomes slower and weaker with his support )".

TB knows this, hence my impending peerage.

Just dreaming up appropriate title

Lord Stephen of Stevenage. Rt Honourable Count Steve of 41oo. THATS GOT AN O IN IT YOU HORRIBLE HERBERT PERSON.

oh what fun...come on Tony I haven't got all day..
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 28 Mar, 2006 02:20 pm
Today:

http://i1.tinypic.com/sfv69g.jpg

:wink:
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 29 Mar, 2006 04:45 am
Who's "Bill Clinton"? A pseudonym I presume.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 29 Mar, 2006 10:03 am
Simon Hoggart:

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We went to a comedy show at our local school this week, and one of the performers drew our attention to the curious way that nothing you can say to Tony Blair ever appears to affect him or hurt his feelings. "You could shout, 'Oi, Tony, your son is a crackhead and your wife is a whore!' and he'd smile back at you and say, 'Well, that's two points of view.' "

I was reminded of that two days later at his press conference in Downing Street when the assembled hacks more or less accused him of running a private, secret and corrupt slush fund, and suggested it was time for him to resign. Other politicians might get angry. Some would bluster. Some would wheedle evasively. Blair looks as if it's a perfectly natural thing to say, even if he disagrees with you, as in: "No, I didn't think Brokeback Mountain went on too long," or, "Honestly, I've never found that Chinese food keeps me awake at night." There is a cyborg quality to him; you can almost hear the clang as the bullets bounce off.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2006 01:37 am
Simon Hoggart is britains funniest political sketch writer.
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2006 02:21 am
Tony Blair has recently acquired a £3.5 million London house and nobody knows how he paid/is paying for it.

He can't do it on his salary, that's for sure. And not even after adding in Cherie's large earnings. The Spectator has been speculating where the money might have come from.
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2006 03:00 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
Simon Hoggart is britains funniest political sketch writer.

I LOVE him! Its my favourite part of the read when I buy the Guardian.

I've even been known, on occasion, when really listless or exasperated by work, to look up a couple of his sketches and get a good laugh, so I could go on again ... (You know you're a geek when: your guilty pleasure is reading the parliamentary sketch... ;-))
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2006 03:05 am
"(You know you're a geek when: your guilty pleasure is reading the parliamentary sketch... Wink)"

no a geek is some who's guilty pleasure is reading Hansard.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2006 03:05 am
Hansard.....Mmmmmmm!
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2006 03:09 am
whatever else you are lorde a geek youre not
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2006 03:18 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
Simon Hoggart is britains funniest political sketch writer.


Well I think Simon Carr gives him a run for his money.

Damned e-Indy is pay-per-read, though, unfortunately

http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_a_l/simon_carr/article354461.ece
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2006 03:44 am
bought both today (money to burn you see) so will compare Smile
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2006 05:38 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
no a geek is some who's guilty pleasure is reading Hansard.

Hah - that reminds me of one of Hoggart's recent ones...

Quote:
Helping the home secretary unwind

Wednesday March 22, 2006

Charles Clarke was asked a tricky question yesterday. "I would need to go back to my speeches in the chamber, which I sometimes do late at night for my own relaxation," he told the home affairs committee.

It was a sweet moment. But did the home secretary mean it? We had a vision of him being dropped at home. A muffled voice from upstairs asks "is that you, darling?" He says he'll be up in a moment.

But we all need to unwind after a busy day at the office. Some people might pick up a thriller, or search for internet porn. I see Mr Clarke pouring himself a modest malt whisky. His eye travels over the green and gold bindings of his prized Hansard collection.

"Ah yes," he thinks with a little thrill, "my speech on the second reading of the police authorities bill!" He pulls a wing chair in front of the last embers of the fire, and reads his own words with chuckles of pleasure. "That was a good line!" he thinks, or, "I saw off that intervention all right! Heh heh!"

At four o'clock his wife, wondering why she is still alone in bed, comes downstairs and finds him asleep, the book open on his lap, a happy smile upon his face.

The whole session, devoted to terrorism, was rather like that, as the committee and the minister jockeyed and bantered with each other. Mr Clarke clearly wanted to say that people who voted against the 90 days' detention without trial clause would have blood on their hands if there was another terrorist attack. But he couldn't say it outright.

One MP, the Lib Dem Jeremy Browne, said that if the public really was at more risk now, then the onus was on Mr Clarke to do more to protect us.

Mr Clarke replied that the onus was even more on those who had voted against 90 days. "It was their decision to vote for something that leaves us less protected."

He had tried, oh how he had tried. He had had talks with David Cameron - then running for Tory leader - and with Mark Oaten, then the Lib Dem home affairs man. He had invited them to phone him over the weekend, but neither had.

He sounded like a young woman who has given a boy her phone number, and is crushed not to hear from him. "And I thought we were getting on so well," she tells her girlfriends, "he seemed really interested in challenging the spread of international terrorism!"

John Denham, the committee chairman, pointed out that the police could not name a single case when someone would have been charged as a terrorist if they had been held any longer. And what court would accept evidence from someone who had been held without charge for so long?

Mr Clarke told him briskly not to predict what the courts might do, and I thought, ooh, he'll enjoy that one long winter evening in a few years' time.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2006 01:29 pm
http://i2.tinypic.com/t0mb7m.jpg


Laughing
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 12:41 am
From the Manchester Evening News (1rst edititon) of today:

http://i1.tinypic.com/v7v8ns.jpg

(Related report in today's Independent
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 01:08 am
No-one has yet explained how Mr Blair is financing his newly-purchased £3 500 000 London house
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 18 Apr, 2006 09:16 am
The Labour Party has launched an attack ad, ridiculing David Cameron's publicity campaign touting his determination to renew and transform the Conservative Party ... www.davethechameleon.com

What do you think? It's gentle enough and somewhat funny..

But isnt it supremely ironic for the New Labour admen, of all people, to take this tack? I mean, won't it just kinda boomerang, just reminding people about all of the Blairite spinmeistering?

All Cameron's attempting to do, after all, is the exact mirror of what Blair did with Labour..

His attempts - and this ad - go a long way in showing just how poisoned the true-blue, nasty-party old Conservative Party's image has become, in any case ... which can only be a good thing.
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