Riots in France

Mr. Hinteler-- You say: "people who don't take the change to update thier informational standards"

May I respectfully request that you review your sentence?


You do not "take" a change, you make a change.

And even if you made a change, it would take time to update one's informational standards.

And, if by standards, you mean an "Approved Model" I assure you, Mr. Hinteler, that my standards are of the highest order.

They merely do not conform with yours!!!

I respectully suggest that you review the wording of your sentence, quoted qbove in the first line.

You really should conform to "Standards"--even in writing!

Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses,.

Walter,

How do you put those little red editorial marks on the text ?? Very clever !

BernardR,

You are now quibbling, like Walter at his worst !

Walter and I have very different viewpoints on many political questions. Moreover, I find his occasional corrections of small points a bit annoying, and undoubtedly I do a few things that are perhaps even more annoying to him. However, I very much enjoy interacting with him, and, to the extent one can 'know' a person through these threads, like and respect him. From him I learn about different perspectives of events; a good deal of factual information I didn't know; and correct a few errors and flawed opinions of my own along the way. He is unfailingly cordial and considerate of others (except when he is quibbling.), and adds a good deal of color and personality to these threads that add to the entertainment value of it for everyone.

I suggest you take a similar approach - accept others as they are (and be glad they return the favor to you), and look for the positive elements in the exchange. If you don't want to do that, perhaps you should ask yourself why you visit this site at all.

I have indeed read Cyrano, and a good deal else besides. My memory of it is clear enough , though undoubtedly some details are cloudy. Yhe story can be interpreted on several levels, as with most good literature. The essential point is that the character of Cyrano in the play did not get what he sought most - he came to a tragic outcome. It was his stubborn beligerence ( a defence mechanism for what he assumed were the perceptions of others) that did him in, and deprived him of the love and acceptance he could have otherwise enjoyed. I believe there is a message in this play for you.

It took all of my combined life experience, German intellect and a couple of computer brekdowns after I invented this - and now you perhaps want me to offer that for free?


It's quite easy and simple: copy the page, cut out out then what you want, paste that in Paint (or any other similar program, but this way seems to be the easiest), make the marks there and copy/store/paste. :wink:


Adding that besides all those fifferences, I learnt a lot by reading you .... and respect you highly.

Thank you for the corrections, Mr. Hinteler. I must learn to be more careful. I promise I will not make atrocious spelling mistakes such as "fifferences" and "brekdowns"

I enjoyed your commentary about "German Intellect". Is there such a thing? Do you mean the intellect of the German people taken as a whole or the intellect of German scientists, writers, etc. which, when examined, stand as a proxy for German citizens?

I should have known that there are different approaches to this term

I just meant it in the way it is usually used in scientific essays, reports, books and more or less generally as well (at least as far as I noticed), namely the power or faculty of knowing as distinguished from the power to feel and to will .

Is the German Intellect's "power of knowing" different that the "power of knowing" expressed by other ethnic groups?

I'm the wrong person to ask (and answer): I've no specialised knowledge about "neuro talk" etc

I don't have any specialized knowledge either, Mr.Hinteler, but I have read a great deal about Intellect. Without going into great detail, it is abundantly clear( I can cite quite a few studies on this) that Intellect, or, as you put it, the "power of knowing" is not limited to any group inherently. Indeed, most of the studies I am familiar with show that there is evidence that IQ is heritable.

It appears that the sons and daughters of fathers and mothers who display( of course, partly due to environmental factors) highly developed intellectual abilities, do indeed inherit the potential for a high IQ.

This, of course, is aptly illustrated by the many German Jews who contributed so much to that country's pre World War II's scientific knowledge.

I am unaware as to whether their religious faith would exempt them from the global concept of "The German Intellect"

See, that's the proof: you are really a specialist on this as well!

(Before your post, I've thought that there is a distinction between intellect and intelligence. )

Gatos, I was thinking about a book I once read and kept thinking of you. The book was The Tin Drum.

Ah, yes, Dyslexia- Die Blechtrommel- An interesting book. Did you read it?

You know, of course, that it is symbolic. The little boy who decided not to grow up in protest against the blindness of the arrogant Gemans who thought they were the master race and who, by and large, did nothing to protest the slaughter of millions by a madman who so easily convinced the Teutons that they were indeed-"the master race"

Yes, I read it.

In Cyrano De Bergerac, Cyrano's nemesis, De Guiche asks him if he had read Don Quixote. Cyrano replied, yes, and found myself the hero.

Symbolically, of course!

I always liked this quote from Oskar: "[America is] the land where people find whatever they have lost, even missing grandfathers."

(Chapter 3 in the original version)




Your interpretation differs more than a bit of how that novel generally has been interpreted ("a parable for the German experience") but also completely to what the author himself said about it ("no special meanings at all").

(I admit that Grass said such about all his writings - actually, his social concerns and themes are clearly to be seen everywhere :wink: )

Gatos, it's only fair to notice you that a seminar had been formed of a2k members (totally behind your back) and consistent username changes as well as general crap postings, in an attempt to critique your posts. (Only by email as a2k pm's are circumspect) only recently reaching the conclusion that your posts are incoherent due to their vitrolic tone and consistent username changes. Should you ever actually have something to say perhaps you could use a different username as well as develop an attitude of conversance. I suspect that if you were invited into someones home you would first spit on the floor and the remarke the painting hanging at entrance was crooked. Do you actually consider integrity as meaningful?

You may be right, Mr.Walter Hinteler, about the interpretation of "The Tin Drum" On the other hand, you may not be.

I am sure that you are an omniverous reader, Mr.Walter Hinteler. Do you know how many different interpretations have been offered by people who analyze Shakespeare's great play, Hamlet?

Sorry that I misread your above comment. I'd thaught, it was about Grass' Blechtrommel and not Hamlet.

No, Mr. Walter Hinteler. You did not misread it. Perhaps I did not phrase it adequately. Let me try again. Novels and plays, especially those which are viewed as symbolic( a boy who does not grow past his third birthday but yet is filled with wise utterances is certainly symbolic) are subject to a variety of interpretations. So is Hamlet. I gave Hamlet as a comparison as a work which is also subject to numerous interpretations.

As I said, Mr. Walter Hinteler, you may be right and, then again, you may not be right!

Gatos, many interesting persons are interested, do yoiu bathe regularily?

I am interested in your interpretation, Mr. Dyslexia. You write of a "vitriolic tone"? Would you be so good, sir, as to define "vitrolic tone" and, then submit an entry of mine which you feel falls under that definition.

And, as for my bathing habits, Mr. Dyslexia,I assure you that the topic is immaterial to this forum.

That is very fair of you Dys and to your credit.

One suspected that there were these "behind the back" seminars taking place in cyber-space, and you have confirmed their existence.

Care to share with us any other collective decisions?

I have to admit I find it tremendously amusing that there is a a group of A2K posters who communicate on what they might post before they do so.