littlek
 
Reply Wed 12 Oct, 2005 09:44 pm
Found: 1 very old noodle. About 4000 years old. This is supposed to finally settle the debate about where, if not when, noodles were first developed. Italians don't ever believe me when I tell them that pasta came first from china. Ironically, this noodle comes from a site called the Pompei of china because the residents were in the act of fleeing when they were entombed by some sort of natural disaster. BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/sci_nat_enl_1129126327/img/laun.jpg
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Wed 12 Oct, 2005 09:58 pm
For some reason I always had the idea Marco Polo brought pasta from China to Europe. Probably one of those silly urban myths I can't shake off Very Happy
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Wed 12 Oct, 2005 10:04 pm
Hm, I wonder what forgotten food items they find in my house 4000 years from now http://www.borge.diesal.de/schiel.gif
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 12 Oct, 2005 10:06 pm
Hopefully they don't find you, Jane....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/sci_nat_enl_1129135641/img/1.jpg


Goodfielder, now I need to go look up marco polo. So far as I know, he was a blind guy who roamed around in pools trying to tag fellow swimmers.
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JPB
 
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Reply Thu 13 Oct, 2005 07:19 am
I was under the same impression as Goodfielder.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 13 Oct, 2005 12:27 pm
I've got the book, but haven't read it..
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Thu 13 Oct, 2005 12:38 pm
Looks like a tape
worm.
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littlek
 
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Reply Thu 13 Oct, 2005 05:28 pm
Bella - it does. Hmmm....
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 13 Oct, 2005 05:32 pm
I remember being taught <when? where? why?> about noodles originating in China.

I've been reading the Diaries of Marco Polo for about 3 years now. Good travelling companion.

Went to a cool concert once, which followed the music Marco Polo would have heard on his travels.

I haven't got to the part where he eats noodles, yet.
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littlek
 
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Reply Thu 13 Oct, 2005 05:33 pm
Why is it that Italians don't get that pasta and pizza weren't originally italian anymore than french fries are french.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 13 Oct, 2005 05:41 pm
Don't they?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 13 Oct, 2005 05:44 pm
I should give a link to this thread to Raphillon - he lives in Rome and is very knowledgeable and helpful. I'll do that..

Beth, even though I haven't actually read the travels of Marco Polo yet, I like the edition of the book, very pretty little thing..
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littlek
 
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Reply Thu 13 Oct, 2005 05:48 pm
You know.... perhaps I am placing too much weight on the few italians I know - especially HM#1. She seems to have lived in a little bubble. Her younger cousin who is hear learning english for a few months knows more about italian culture and policy than HM#1 does.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 13 Oct, 2005 06:07 pm
Hmmm, where did wheat start... well, presumably it was natural somewhere.. maybe the good old tigris and euphrates. (On that, don't get me started.)
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littlek
 
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Reply Thu 13 Oct, 2005 06:13 pm
Start
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 13 Oct, 2005 06:33 pm
You might as well read this while I am, and it is just one site -
http://www.inmamaskitchen.com/FOOD_IS_ART/pasta/historypasta.html
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 13 Oct, 2005 06:40 pm
On the other hand,
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mramen.html
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littlek
 
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Reply Thu 13 Oct, 2005 09:23 pm
China it is.....?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 13 Oct, 2005 09:48 pm
Seems to be..
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kickycan
 
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Reply Thu 13 Oct, 2005 10:11 pm
littlek wrote:
Why is it that Italians don't get that pasta and pizza weren't originally italian anymore than french fries are french.


Hey! I always knew that the noodle/pasta was born in China. But pizza? I always thought that pizza was born in Napoli. Am I wrong?
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