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Nelson and the Nude: Civilian Art in Tralfalgar Square

 
 
Noddy24
 
Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 09:28 am
From this morning's NYT's:

http://snipurl.com/ic4s


The statue, 11 feet 7 inches of snow-white Carrara marble, shows the naked, eight-and-a-half-month-pregnant figure of 40-year-old Alison Lapper, a single mother who was born with shortened legs and no arms. Ms. Lapper is a friend of the sculptor, Marc Quinn, who has said that Nelson's Column, the focal point of Trafalgar Square, is "the epitome of a phallic male moment" and that he thought "the square needed some femininity."

But "Alison Lapper Pregnant" - juxtaposed as it is with the majestic figures of a king, two generals and the naval hero Lord Nelson - has fueled a sharp discussion here about art, the purpose of public monuments, and the appropriateness of displaying such a piece in such a singular public space.


Personally, I approve of a very feminine statue in a heretofor male dominated public space.

What do you think.


My computer skills are limited. Perhaps someone with more talent could cut and paste the picture of "Alison Lapper Pregnant"?
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AngeliqueEast
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 09:32 am
I approve too!!! I remember when Demi Moore first came out naked, and pregnant in a magazine; I thought she just looked beautiful!!!
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AngeliqueEast
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 09:37 am
I can't copy, and paste the image for some reason. The picture does not show up. Here is a link.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/murky/44113020/

Is this it?
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 09:40 am
Dys has a photo on his thread on the subject.

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=61162&highlight=
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 03:33 pm
I saw that sculpture a while back, in fact, I have saved some photos, cos I love it, and it will be taken away eventually, snce that space is for different works to be displayed.

It must be amazing to see in that space!
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 05:59 pm
The woman is an inspiration to anyone who is struggling against all odds, and I hope that the statue finds a permanent place in London, eventually.


I can't find a picture "in situ", but this was when the statue was first exhibited.





http://k.domaindlx.com/lordellpus/alp.jpg
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 06:45 pm
Well, first of all I think it's beautiful, and so is she in real life.

I think this is a tempest in a teapot, as the sculpture is there as part of a rotating exhibition.

I'm a little odd in my opinions on public space art - I think the public is the user-client even if a work is commissioned and ok'd by the public's government representation, so when Richard Serra's Tilted Arc in Foley Square annoyed the hell out of people who walked around it getting to work every day, I think it was the client reacting. I was all for it being there, but am not so sure one owns public space as an eternal artist canvas. Even Marcus Aurelius on his horse was moved from the capitoline hill, albeit to save him from smog.

Calder's sculpture (I think it was Calder) in Chicago set up a stinkeroo back when it was installed, and I think it survived that. Not sure if it's still there all these years later, probably is. As I envision it in my mind, it "fit" its space. However, it may have set up for a long time to come the much despised "turd in the plaza" syndrome. This particular piece isn't part of that, in my opinion.

So, I think it's good that the sculpture is there, pleasant that it is temporary and hope it goes somewhere else interesting next, stays eventually in some good space, and good that it is a beautiful work.

I take Christo's point about process, in that the whole hazzerai around an installation is also part of the art, though I doubt he said that in those words.

I didn't see dys' thread, will go check it out..
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 07:45 pm
Dys' thread here -

http://able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1614041#1614041
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