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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 30 Apr, 2026 04:18 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

The Magna Carta wasn't properly implemented until the reign of Edward I whose justice loving antics are parodied in Braveheart.

The Magna Carta itself was a revised version of The Charter of Liberties by Henry I, which was a version of common law practiced by the Saxon kings.

John largely ignored the Magna Carta, and it wasn't until the 16th Century that it was viewed as significant.

Shakespeare's play King John doesn't mention Magna Carta at all and instead focuses on the conflict with the pope.

Izzy, you are from England, correct?

You should know, as should Heather Cox Richardson above you, that the definite article "the" really should not be used when speaking of Magna Carta.
King Charles, when speaking to congress, spoke of Magna Carta, not The Magna Carta.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 30 Apr, 2026 05:01 am
@Frank Apisa,
I live in Wales, but I am from England and I'm an English teacher and you are wrong.

Both The Magna Carta and Magna Carta are acceptable, but The Magna Carta is more common in modern English.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 30 Apr, 2026 10:06 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

I live in Wales, but I am from England and I'm an English teacher and you are wrong.

Both The Magna Carta and Magna Carta are acceptable, but The Magna Carta is more common in modern English.


I guess the King was wrong then.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Thu 30 Apr, 2026 11:15 am
@Frank Apisa,

our own king gets **** wrong constantly...
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 30 Apr, 2026 11:31 am
@Region Philbis,
Region Philbis wrote:


our own king gets **** wrong constantly...


Yep. Our "king" is an asshole...with apologies to assholes.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 30 Apr, 2026 11:40 am
@Region Philbis,
Actually, King Charles was not "wrong." He simply used the English way of mentioning Magna Carta. That is why I prefaced my remark to Izzy with mention of him being English. In England, almost everyone who mentions Magna Carta refrains from using the article.

Sorta like most people in England mentioning being in the hospital refrains from using the "the" before hospital. Here in the US we would use the article in both cases.

We are not consistent for some reason. We would say, "He is in the hospital" for someone being a patient in a hospital. In England one would say, "He is in hospital." But we would say, "She is in school" (for a student) rather than "She is in the school."

In England one would say, "He/she is in hospital."
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